> Not if you want to avoid starvation and riots. It's not like there's some magical grocery fairy or "the government" putting stuff on the shelves. People have

> Not if you want to avoid starvation and riots. It's not like there's some magical grocery fairy or "the government" putting stuff on the shelves. People have to work to put stuff there. The proposal has never been complete shut down, this is a cheap strawman argument. I support what CA and NY is doing currently. My state MA issued a similar shelter-in-place order yesterday but the definition of "essential" business is so inclusive that my random software startup qualifies for "essential" business (even though we're all WFH). What needs to be done is picking businesses that are required for the society to function. This includes markets, logistics (UPS, USPS, FedEx etc), hospitals etc. And every other business need to be shut down on gun point. > In the absence of data It seems like you misread my comment. There is no absence of data. The data indicates that NY alone is expected to surpass Italy level outbreak in a week. I said there is no data to support the sudden increase in cases is tied to testing. I agree that that's possible, but we have no evidence. So we should act like this is spreading like wildfire, today.