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"Son" here. AMA! Fun to see this on HN. A few replies to some good questions: 1. Per @JdeBD, that was the Wikipedia edit that started everything. After 30+ hr
by rogerdickey 7y ago
"Son" here. AMA! Fun to see this on HN.
A few replies to some good questions:
1. Per @JdeBD, that was the Wikipedia edit that started everything. After 30+ hrs of online research, all roads lead back to this edit. I read 3 books on the island and found no mention of the boulder.
2. I took a bunch of photos that didn't make the article. Happy to share them offline with interested parties, but given that I could not find MB, they don't prove much.
3. The article does focus on us getting lost but that happened well after we left Ryan Island. This confused the NPR reporter too. Ryan Island is pretty easy to get to from Malone bay which is just a water taxi away from Rock Harbor. We had a working GPS with us the whole time which made certain legs of the trip a lot easier. How did we get lost with a GPS? The island is a mix of clearly marked dirt trails and large rock fields with no trail markings. You need to have a great sense of direction and some luck to pick up the trail again after traversing each rock field. We got lost after what must have been a quarter-mile rock field at 1am and the GPS didn't have the hiking trail marked in that area.
4. We made 2 landings at different points on Ryan Island, one southern and the other west / north-western. I did a lot of bushwacking from both points but there was no evidence of any water on the island or even mud where there could have been a "seasonal" pool. I was looking for a clearing or any kind of large flat-ish area but couldn't find anything like that larger than a few feet in diameter. The (small) island is extremely rocky and densely wooded.
5. Re the route, as many have noted it was very convoluted. We originally planned to go 18 miles in a day - the first half mostly paddles and portages, the second half is an 11-mile coastal trail back to Rock Harbor. The plan was to abandon the canoe at the halfway point and come back and get it via water taxi the next morning. After getting lost we gave up at the halfway point around 4am and camped for the night there.
- codezero 7y agoI'm guessing bringing a drone to do a survey would ruin the fun of these excursions for you? :)
- rogerdickey 7y agoHah, good idea but IIRC drones are banned in the park.
- codezero 7y agoYou gotta crack some eggs to cook a global geographic Internet mystery potential hoax.
- holub008 7y agoThanks for digging into this- what a cool adventure! In your research, were you able to find GPS coordinates of the purported island? I'd be interested in taking a trip out to search myself, but doing a grid search of the whole island sounds challenging based on your report.
- rogerdickey 7y agoNo. That's when I started to get suspicious.
- asynchronous13 7y agoI couldn't help but wonder if Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) was chosen intentionally as a fake source. WHOI can be pronounced "hooey", which is slang for a fake assertion.
- OrangeMango 7y agoSure, and there can be a lot of confusion surrounding the name Woods Hole which makes it easier to hand wave questions away. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution is an affiliate of MIT. Woods Hole Marine Biological Laboratory is an affiliate of UChicago. If someone says "that didn't happen there!" you can always say "oh sorry, I meant the other one"
- rogerdickey 7y agoFunny idea but I don't think Atlas Obscura was in on it. Pretty sure they thought the boulder was real.
- monort 7y agoHave you checked this spot? It looks like an arroyo: https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=dd84f18f-fcc7-41a3-89b2-f49db816bc04&cp=48.011632~-88.76822&lvl=19&style=h&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027 https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=dd84f18f-fcc7-41a3-89b2-f49db...
- rogerdickey 7y agoI'm not sure if we were there but given the small scale of the island that looks to me like the border of a rock feature