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Okay. But we can demonstrate the existence of gravity. Let go of an apple and watch it drop. I have yet to see a demonstration of divine intervention.
by tdons 7y ago
Okay. But we can demonstrate the existence of gravity. Let go of an apple and watch it drop.
I have yet to see a demonstration of divine intervention.
- bryanrasmussen 7y agoI think GrantZvolsky means we could be all living in a simulation, dude! (the word dude being obligatory for ending any sentence suggesting we could all be living in a simulation, dude)
- GrantZvolsky 7y agoWhat would make you think so? I was in fact alluding to fallibilism.
- bryanrasmussen 7y agoNothing in particular, other than that is a pretty common argument nowadays for how you can't prove that existence is as it appears to be and anything that "proves" it can just be a function of the simulation tricking you.
- DoreenMichele 7y agoPeople like me probably invented religion. I have a son who absolutely doesn't believe in God and all that. He was told growing up that he didn't have to believe, but he absolutely wasn't allowed to be derisive of his own mother and her beliefs -- or anyone else's, for that matter. We were homeless for years and had quite a few bizarre experiences that could be interpreted as "miracles" or "divine intervention" if one is inclined that way. He occasionally would comment on that fact and observe that his belief system was being tested or mocked by life, then follow that observation with remarks about laws of large numbers and that really bizarre coincidences were bound to happen at times to someone. People in both camps tend to see what they already believe in, kind of like the observation in The Sixth Sense about dead people only seeing what they want to see. Please understand that I'm absolutely not suggesting you are wrong. I'm only suggesting that the status of being a believer or non believer seems to be self reinforcing. Believers and non believers can experience the exact same thing and can both conclude at the end of the day that their current beliefs have been verified -- or at least not overturned. (My position is that it's a simulation in 4D and the actual answer neither matters nor can be proven one way or the other. I think people should be free to believe what they believe in that regard. I also think they should, ideally, respect the right of others to do the same.)
- pintxo 7y agoBelieves rarely are the problem. It's usually the actions based on the believes generating the friction between the parties.
- DoreenMichele 7y agoThis is true. Studies show that people imagine they connect with people with similar beliefs because they believe similarly. In reality, they connect with people with similar activities and habits (because it causes them to spend time together). Your observation gets run through my current set of beliefs and just reinforces my already existing opinion that, seriously, "Live and let live" is the best policy for such things. ;)
- unreal37 7y agoOK, I'll bite. Who or what created the universe? Don't say "big bang" because something needed to create that.
- pintxo 7y agoDon't say "God" because something needed to create her/him/it.
- tdons 7y agoI don't know. And I'm fine with that. We don't yet have answers to every question.
- stOneskull 7y agoAnother universe did