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This is a very inflammatory comment. Many of the Pakistanis and Indian Muslims I know are proud of their South Asian heritage and actually turn their noses up a

This is a very inflammatory comment. Many of the Pakistanis and Indian Muslims I know are proud of their South Asian heritage and actually turn their noses up at the Arabicization of their culture. Not all obviously - but enough that I know that your broadstroke painting of Indian Muslims is an extremely unfair characterization. Indian Muslims and Pakistans and Bangladeshis are no less natives of the subcontinent than the Hindus or the Buddhists or the Jains are - they just happen to practice a different religion.

threwa55467 7y ago
Sure they are. None of the surveys, nor the vote before the partition, nor the numerous Hindu genocides, nor the thousands of temple destroyed, nor the millennia of (continuing) barbaric violence - nothing is evidence for what you are selling. I'm not surprised that you're here peddling the 'break India' theory which the American academia (surprise, surprise) also loves to indulge in.
- throwaway123x2 7y ago
  I'm not peddling theories, I'm raising honest questions that I hope rational minds on HN can challenge me on. Peddling hate won't convince me. :) I'll assume for a second that you're Indian... let's say your brother were to become Muslim tomorrow. Would he be any less Indian after the fact? Or any less your brother? No he wouldn't. Muslims in India aren't Arabs who invaded and settled, they're Indians who converted. Go back far enough and you probably have a common, Indian ancestor with most of them.
  - pinkfoot 7y ago
    Have you tried your experiment with the Muslim converting? Typically involves a good stoning. Except in Malaysia - there they file it under a mental disorder. If you are going to play the we are all brothers card…
    - throwaway123x2 7y ago
      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204 it goes both ways, buddy. It would be better for everybody if there was a whole lot less of that feeling going around.
      - pinkfoot 7y ago
        Oh yes. Sorry if I suggested otherwise. But the OP is naive to think that religion doesn’t make very, very real enemies of people. It’s actually, better than anything else at making enemies for no earthly reason.
  - belltaco 7y ago
    Wonder why no one likes to talk about what happened to the Hindu population in Pakistan since partition. >Prior to 1947, Hindus constituted between 14% to 23% of the population of what is now Pakistan, that is more than the current percentage of Muslims in India. Cities like Karachi (about 50%) and Lahore (roughly 30%) had sizeable number of Hindus. Today, as per the 1998 census, Hindus comprise a mere 1.6%. Meanwhile the Muslim population in India has grown as a percentage.

threwa55467 7y ago

Sure they are. None of the surveys, nor the vote before the partition, nor the numerous Hindu genocides, nor the thousands of temple destroyed, nor the millennia of (continuing) barbaric violence - nothing is evidence for what you are selling. I'm not surprised that you're here peddling the 'break India' theory which the American academia (surprise, surprise) also loves to indulge in.

throwaway123x2 7y ago
I'm not peddling theories, I'm raising honest questions that I hope rational minds on HN can challenge me on. Peddling hate won't convince me. :) I'll assume for a second that you're Indian... let's say your brother were to become Muslim tomorrow. Would he be any less Indian after the fact? Or any less your brother? No he wouldn't. Muslims in India aren't Arabs who invaded and settled, they're Indians who converted. Go back far enough and you probably have a common, Indian ancestor with most of them.
- pinkfoot 7y ago
  Have you tried your experiment with the Muslim converting? Typically involves a good stoning. Except in Malaysia - there they file it under a mental disorder. If you are going to play the we are all brothers card…
  - throwaway123x2 7y ago
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51719204 it goes both ways, buddy. It would be better for everybody if there was a whole lot less of that feeling going around.
    - pinkfoot 7y ago
      Oh yes. Sorry if I suggested otherwise. But the OP is naive to think that religion doesn’t make very, very real enemies of people. It’s actually, better than anything else at making enemies for no earthly reason.
- belltaco 7y ago
  Wonder why no one likes to talk about what happened to the Hindu population in Pakistan since partition. >Prior to 1947, Hindus constituted between 14% to 23% of the population of what is now Pakistan, that is more than the current percentage of Muslims in India. Cities like Karachi (about 50%) and Lahore (roughly 30%) had sizeable number of Hindus. Today, as per the 1998 census, Hindus comprise a mere 1.6%. Meanwhile the Muslim population in India has grown as a percentage.