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> In general though the government and police in India are acting with too blunt a force in this issue. Given that the only other option is to pile the hospita

> In general though the government and police in India are acting with too blunt a force in this issue. Given that the only other option is to pile the hospitals with dead bodies, force short of killings should be used.

billfruit 7y ago
I don't see even in China, resorting to police violence in such condition.
- quantummkv 7y ago
  Mostly because the people in China know that violence would happen as the government reminds the people from time to time. So they keep quite and obey. Since India doesn't do this regularly, they have to give a crash course to people who think that the law won't touch them
  - billfruit 7y ago
    In reality though the law can't really touch them. I think the fines are quite small amounts like 4$ dollars for violating containment etc, and its bailable too, so legally police don't have a strong imperative to do anything much except chalk a fine. That too could be challenged, I doubt if all those quarantined, isolated etc in India has been given formal quarantine orders, considering the chaos at airports. And additionally at this juncture government wouldn't want to overcrowd the prisons at this point of time.
    - threwa55467 7y ago
      Containment is technically restricted to passengers who arrived in India after 2/15. There is no such restriction for the rest of the population... Of course, with India, there is the legal theory and its 'practice'. I imagine the police will make a killing with all the bribes in the coming weeks.
- allover 7y ago
  Are you in China? Could you explain/give context to the violence shown here: https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1238704923417575424 https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1238704923417575424
  - mafuy 7y ago
    Honestly? Unless I missed something, that's a totally OK level of force. They did not hit, beat, trample or otherwise assault that guy. They were rough, but not violent. As rough as required to get him out. I'm sure he was bruised, that's part of resisting. But no, I see no violence there. I say this as someone who is European and politically left-wing (i.e. against government authority).
    - allover 7y ago
      Context matters - we're not talking about making arrests here.

billfruit 7y ago

I don't see even in China, resorting to police violence in such condition.

quantummkv 7y ago
Mostly because the people in China know that violence would happen as the government reminds the people from time to time. So they keep quite and obey. Since India doesn't do this regularly, they have to give a crash course to people who think that the law won't touch them
- billfruit 7y ago
  In reality though the law can't really touch them. I think the fines are quite small amounts like 4$ dollars for violating containment etc, and its bailable too, so legally police don't have a strong imperative to do anything much except chalk a fine. That too could be challenged, I doubt if all those quarantined, isolated etc in India has been given formal quarantine orders, considering the chaos at airports. And additionally at this juncture government wouldn't want to overcrowd the prisons at this point of time.
  - threwa55467 7y ago
    Containment is technically restricted to passengers who arrived in India after 2/15. There is no such restriction for the rest of the population... Of course, with India, there is the legal theory and its 'practice'. I imagine the police will make a killing with all the bribes in the coming weeks.
allover 7y ago
Are you in China? Could you explain/give context to the violence shown here: https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1238704923417575424 https://twitter.com/AF632/status/1238704923417575424
- mafuy 7y ago
  Honestly? Unless I missed something, that's a totally OK level of force. They did not hit, beat, trample or otherwise assault that guy. They were rough, but not violent. As rough as required to get him out. I'm sure he was bruised, that's part of resisting. But no, I see no violence there. I say this as someone who is European and politically left-wing (i.e. against government authority).
  - allover 7y ago
    Context matters - we're not talking about making arrests here.