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As someone who has worked on both sides of the table (i've looked after developer relations and I'm a developer) credit should be given for the fact that this r

by dotBen 16y ago

As someone who has worked on both sides of the table (i've looked after developer relations and I'm a developer) credit should be given for the fact that this response was internally agreed, written and published during a weekend. I think the RIM response was great given the timing and don't be too quick to decide it fell short given that the people who would need to be involved in any change to their policies probably are not easily obtained during a weekend. Lets see what else happens over the course of the working week.

JanezStupar 16y ago
Indeed the company I used to work for would be never capable of such a feat. 1. They would take at least a month to notice (if at all), 2. Nobody would go to write an actual response, 3. The customer would be flagged as "that pedantic asshole", 4. Any internal dissenters who would notice the whole deal would be ignored or coerced into obedience. Oh and not to mention that said organization has immense illusions of grandeur.
- Stormbringer 16y ago
  Please note that this isn't an over the weekend spur of the moment thing, these are complaints that people have been making loudly for months. Your company with the one month time to notice and make a response is actually responding 5 times faster than RIM in this instance. Scary eh?
  - JanezStupar 16y ago
    Well still kudos to them for actually responding in a humble fashion. Don't get me wrong - I see RIM as going the same way as NOKIA (read: nowhere fast). But to their credit - they were able to get an actual product to the market and get to where they can fall deep :).
    - Stormbringer 16y ago
      They got the Storm to market pretty quickly too, and that was beyond horrible. Have they actually started selling Playbooks? My understanding is that it has been in a state of "we'll release it real soon now" for quite some time.
Stormbringer 16y ago
They don't deserve any credit at all, because people have been complaining about this since literally day 1. Now admittedly they might have initially gotten drowned out by the screams of a million java developers wailing and gnashing their teeth about having to pay big $ to do everything with the adobe tools (or, alternatively to do everything on the command line, which is a huge pain in the bum when you're having to learn a new toolkit from scratch). The fact that it has taken them ~6 months to take their fingers out of their ears and stop saying "la la la la la we can't hear you" indicates just how humungously badly messed up RIM is right now. They don't deserve credit, they deserve a bullet. And the way they are headed the market is going to give them one.
valjavec 16y ago
Reading RIM's reply: "I want you to know that we are absolutely listening.", "Our development teams here at RIM have been working hard to get our tools ready for PlayBook launch." ... I can't help myself thinking of a saying: Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

by dotBen 16y ago

JanezStupar 16y ago

Indeed the company I used to work for would be never capable of such a feat. 1. They would take at least a month to notice (if at all), 2. Nobody would go to write an actual response, 3. The customer would be flagged as "that pedantic asshole", 4. Any internal dissenters who would notice the whole deal would be ignored or coerced into obedience. Oh and not to mention that said organization has immense illusions of grandeur.

Stormbringer 16y ago
Please note that this isn't an over the weekend spur of the moment thing, these are complaints that people have been making loudly for months. Your company with the one month time to notice and make a response is actually responding 5 times faster than RIM in this instance. Scary eh?
- JanezStupar 16y ago
  Well still kudos to them for actually responding in a humble fashion. Don't get me wrong - I see RIM as going the same way as NOKIA (read: nowhere fast). But to their credit - they were able to get an actual product to the market and get to where they can fall deep :).
  - Stormbringer 16y ago
    They got the Storm to market pretty quickly too, and that was beyond horrible. Have they actually started selling Playbooks? My understanding is that it has been in a state of "we'll release it real soon now" for quite some time.

Stormbringer 16y ago

They don't deserve any credit at all, because people have been complaining about this since literally day 1. Now admittedly they might have initially gotten drowned out by the screams of a million java developers wailing and gnashing their teeth about having to pay big $ to do everything with the adobe tools (or, alternatively to do everything on the command line, which is a huge pain in the bum when you're having to learn a new toolkit from scratch). The fact that it has taken them ~6 months to take their fingers out of their ears and stop saying "la la la la la we can't hear you" indicates just how humungously badly messed up RIM is right now. They don't deserve credit, they deserve a bullet. And the way they are headed the market is going to give them one.

valjavec 16y ago

Reading RIM's reply: "I want you to know that we are absolutely listening.", "Our development teams here at RIM have been working hard to get our tools ready for PlayBook launch." ... I can't help myself thinking of a saying: Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.