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Tourists from cruise ships destroy nice vacactions. Many hundreds of people come on the streets in groups, go throught the streets loudly and fast to take phot

Tourists from cruise ships destroy nice vacactions. Many hundreds of people come on the streets in groups, go throught the streets loudly and fast to take photos, than go back to the ship. People who really go to these places and spend money for staying and try to blend in to have a peaceful vacation can't.

Tade0 7y ago
Venice a prime example of this problem.
Bnshsysjab 7y ago
Your comment seems like the statement of someone with an axe to grind rather and lacks factual evidence.
- lb1lf 7y ago
  -I used to live in a small town (Aalesund, Norway, pop. of town centre - 10,000 or so). It is a popular port for cruise ships doing the Norwegian coast. I assure you, during summer season one could have 2-4 vessels in port - effectively a DoS attack on town. Getting from A to B on foot was nearly impossible, forget any shopping or café visits - a town built for 10,000 suddenly had twice as many people in the streets. Go figure. While the cruise tourists leave a little cash behind, it is much less per head than, say, camper van tourists do. I didn't mind all that much - but I can see valid reasons for not wishing to have a cruise entourage come crashing down on your hometown on a regular basis.
- xiphias2 7y ago
  That's true. But the number of upvotes are evidence that I'm not the only person experiencing this. I love to travel, but I try to stay at least 10 days on any place I go to and learn a bit of the local language and customs. For that I really need the airlines to work, but if they get more expensive, I understand, and will just make longer vacations at less places.
busterarm 7y ago
And municipalities let them come because volume, volume, volume. Those tourist destinations cater to them more than they cater to you.
- Sholmesy 7y ago
  This isn't true, specifically of places like Venice, where they are actively trying to curtail cruise ship traffic.
  - busterarm 7y ago
    Some.
enriquto 7y ago
Of all the really bad things that can be said about cruise ships you have chosen one that is 100% identical with airlines. Moreover, it has a certain air of "gatekeeping" that is fairly ridiculous. It is impossible to "blend" somewhere in vacation. You have to live many years somewhere to blend. You are exactly like the cruise ship tourists if you stay for a few weeks.
- namdnay 7y ago
  That's a bit unfair, when you fly somehwere you sleep there, you eat there, you spend there. Whereas on a cruise ship the tourist is spending 99% of their money on the ship, and 1% in the city that they're flooding
  - sytelus 7y ago
    Not true. Cruise passengers practically run the economy of many cities around the world including US. For example, a lot of towns in Alaska basically live off of cruise ship docking there. If they stop, many of them flat out collapse. I don't have actual data but my anecdata from several cruise ship regulars is that they spend at least as much on "excursions" and touring the ports as on cruise ship ticket.
    - namdnay 7y ago
      Sorry maybe that's true, I was thinking of European/Mediterranean cruises, and the impact they have on Venice, Dubrovnik etc
- alkonaut 7y ago
  Few people fly in and flood the streets of tourist hotspot cities for just a couple of hours and then disappear again without spending any money on hotels, and often not even restaurants. You can do that as a plane tourist too, but it's far less common. As soon as you stay even one night you are NOT like cruise tourists. You probably had at least one dinner and one hotel stay. Good tourist.
  - 7y ago
Cthulhu_ 7y ago
Interestingly, the city of Amsterdam is trying to reduce the amount of tourists they get; one measure they've taken is closing the cruise ship port close to the city center.
- xiphias2 7y ago
  That's great! I have seen videos of how they're also reducing the usage of cars to make it a walkable/bicyclable city, I would love to see Amsterdam some time (probably not this year due to coronavirus though :( )
bluntfang 7y ago
>People who really go to these places did you just no true scottsman vacations?

Tade0 7y ago

Venice a prime example of this problem.

Bnshsysjab 7y ago

Your comment seems like the statement of someone with an axe to grind rather and lacks factual evidence.

lb1lf 7y ago
-I used to live in a small town (Aalesund, Norway, pop. of town centre - 10,000 or so). It is a popular port for cruise ships doing the Norwegian coast. I assure you, during summer season one could have 2-4 vessels in port - effectively a DoS attack on town. Getting from A to B on foot was nearly impossible, forget any shopping or café visits - a town built for 10,000 suddenly had twice as many people in the streets. Go figure. While the cruise tourists leave a little cash behind, it is much less per head than, say, camper van tourists do. I didn't mind all that much - but I can see valid reasons for not wishing to have a cruise entourage come crashing down on your hometown on a regular basis.
xiphias2 7y ago
That's true. But the number of upvotes are evidence that I'm not the only person experiencing this. I love to travel, but I try to stay at least 10 days on any place I go to and learn a bit of the local language and customs. For that I really need the airlines to work, but if they get more expensive, I understand, and will just make longer vacations at less places.

busterarm 7y ago

And municipalities let them come because volume, volume, volume. Those tourist destinations cater to them more than they cater to you.

Sholmesy 7y ago
This isn't true, specifically of places like Venice, where they are actively trying to curtail cruise ship traffic.
- busterarm 7y ago
  Some.

enriquto 7y ago

Of all the really bad things that can be said about cruise ships you have chosen one that is 100% identical with airlines. Moreover, it has a certain air of "gatekeeping" that is fairly ridiculous. It is impossible to "blend" somewhere in vacation. You have to live many years somewhere to blend. You are exactly like the cruise ship tourists if you stay for a few weeks.

namdnay 7y ago
That's a bit unfair, when you fly somehwere you sleep there, you eat there, you spend there. Whereas on a cruise ship the tourist is spending 99% of their money on the ship, and 1% in the city that they're flooding
- sytelus 7y ago
  Not true. Cruise passengers practically run the economy of many cities around the world including US. For example, a lot of towns in Alaska basically live off of cruise ship docking there. If they stop, many of them flat out collapse. I don't have actual data but my anecdata from several cruise ship regulars is that they spend at least as much on "excursions" and touring the ports as on cruise ship ticket.
  - namdnay 7y ago
    Sorry maybe that's true, I was thinking of European/Mediterranean cruises, and the impact they have on Venice, Dubrovnik etc
alkonaut 7y ago
Few people fly in and flood the streets of tourist hotspot cities for just a couple of hours and then disappear again without spending any money on hotels, and often not even restaurants. You can do that as a plane tourist too, but it's far less common. As soon as you stay even one night you are NOT like cruise tourists. You probably had at least one dinner and one hotel stay. Good tourist.
- 7y ago

Cthulhu_ 7y ago

Interestingly, the city of Amsterdam is trying to reduce the amount of tourists they get; one measure they've taken is closing the cruise ship port close to the city center.

xiphias2 7y ago
That's great! I have seen videos of how they're also reducing the usage of cars to make it a walkable/bicyclable city, I would love to see Amsterdam some time (probably not this year due to coronavirus though :( )

bluntfang 7y ago

>People who really go to these places did you just no true scottsman vacations?