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I stumbled on Svelte after using both react and vue. I have to say Svelte is a breath of fresh air and a pleasure to use, especially with a rails 6 app using we

I stumbled on Svelte after using both react and vue. I have to say Svelte is a breath of fresh air and a pleasure to use, especially with a rails 6 app using webpacker. I’d recommend you check Svelte out as it will only take 20 minutes for you to get your head around it. This is a far cry from react.

Tajnymag 7y ago
Apart theoretically smaller bundle size, how is Svelte different from Vue? How would you compare them? (honest question)
fraktl 7y ago
This was the same thought I had about Vue when I first used it. I knew vanilla javascript - Vue is vanilla javascript. I knew HTML and CSS - Vue's component-based approach looks exactly like HTML. It didn't take more than 20 minutes to get some code running using Vue and it made me significantly faster. Then I stumbled upon Svelte and after using it for a day, I asserted it won't make me much faster and I'd have to learn yet another tool. That's why I stuck with Vue, and then I discovered Vuetify and Nuxt, awesome tools that made my life even easier. I really can't draw a parallel between Svelte and Vue in terms of "better", so I started using my subjective feeling to justify my decision of going with a tool. Subjectively speaking, I don't like Svelte. I don't have a solid, objective reason except this one: I really don't want to abandon 3 years of work I've put into projects that are based on Vue and TypeScript and go with Svelte without obvious gains. There's nothing so different that it'd justify yet another downtime in order to swap the toolset so I can satisfy my peers online who approve or disapprove my choice of tooling.
- sireat 7y ago
  Interestingly the more common view is that Vue feels less vanilla Javascripty than React. When I am writing React I am writing Javascript (usually a bit obscured with JSX). With Vue a large part of functionality is in v-directives. That doesn't change the fact that Vue is easier to learn for those new to webdev than React. Students who just started learning Javascript can usually pick up Vue but I am yet to see someone with little JS experience pick up React in a hurry.
- Can_Not 7y ago
  If you value larger ecosystem, more mature ecosystem, and superior error handling/tracking, then you've made the right choice
BilalBudhani 7y ago
Every new paradigm you look will feel like a breath of fresh air. However, I would strongly recommend striking a balance between shiny new syndrome and shipping things, the former can spiral into endless level of choices.
jbergens 7y ago
This was actually one thing that drew me into React from the beginning, the api was so small and it was very easy to understand. I could start and be up and running very quickly and also learn most of the api fast. Some solutions are very easy to start with but then you have to learn more and more and it takes a lot of time. I think Vue was like this in the beginning. You could just start with simple data binding but for a real application you should switch to VueEx and you could start with without a compile/transpile step but if you had a serious application you probably needed that anyway.

Tajnymag 7y ago

Apart theoretically smaller bundle size, how is Svelte different from Vue? How would you compare them? (honest question)

fraktl 7y ago

This was the same thought I had about Vue when I first used it. I knew vanilla javascript - Vue is vanilla javascript. I knew HTML and CSS - Vue's component-based approach looks exactly like HTML. It didn't take more than 20 minutes to get some code running using Vue and it made me significantly faster. Then I stumbled upon Svelte and after using it for a day, I asserted it won't make me much faster and I'd have to learn yet another tool. That's why I stuck with Vue, and then I discovered Vuetify and Nuxt, awesome tools that made my life even easier. I really can't draw a parallel between Svelte and Vue in terms of "better", so I started using my subjective feeling to justify my decision of going with a tool. Subjectively speaking, I don't like Svelte. I don't have a solid, objective reason except this one: I really don't want to abandon 3 years of work I've put into projects that are based on Vue and TypeScript and go with Svelte without obvious gains. There's nothing so different that it'd justify yet another downtime in order to swap the toolset so I can satisfy my peers online who approve or disapprove my choice of tooling.

sireat 7y ago
Interestingly the more common view is that Vue feels less vanilla Javascripty than React. When I am writing React I am writing Javascript (usually a bit obscured with JSX). With Vue a large part of functionality is in v-directives. That doesn't change the fact that Vue is easier to learn for those new to webdev than React. Students who just started learning Javascript can usually pick up Vue but I am yet to see someone with little JS experience pick up React in a hurry.
Can_Not 7y ago
If you value larger ecosystem, more mature ecosystem, and superior error handling/tracking, then you've made the right choice

BilalBudhani 7y ago

Every new paradigm you look will feel like a breath of fresh air. However, I would strongly recommend striking a balance between shiny new syndrome and shipping things, the former can spiral into endless level of choices.

jbergens 7y ago

This was actually one thing that drew me into React from the beginning, the api was so small and it was very easy to understand. I could start and be up and running very quickly and also learn most of the api fast. Some solutions are very easy to start with but then you have to learn more and more and it takes a lot of time. I think Vue was like this in the beginning. You could just start with simple data binding but for a real application you should switch to VueEx and you could start with without a compile/transpile step but if you had a serious application you probably needed that anyway.