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That's not the worst of the worst. The worst of the worst is when there is nobody to run the power plants. How do you shower without electricity? There will be
by toohotatopic 7y ago
That's not the worst of the worst.
The worst of the worst is when there is nobody to run the power plants. How do you shower without electricity? There will be no water.
That said, how come people stock up on toilet paper for months, but they don't have enough food to ever survive to the point of last leaf.
- yaur 7y agoIf it comes to that using leaves isn't that bad and if there is no one left to run the power plants you aren't going to want to be anywhere near the city.
- abdulhaq 7y agoLeaves are terrible. Remove the major filth using stones with flat edges. Wash the remainder with water then wash hands thoroughly with soap. Use your left hand for washing so the right hand can later be used for eating etc.
- manigandham 7y agoBecause people have no idea how to survive without modern utilities and conveniences. Toilet paper hoarding is just panic, not a measured response. As you say, food, water and living essentials are far more important in a real survival scenario.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago> That said, how come people stock up on toilet paper for months, but they don't have enough food to ever survive to the point of last leaf. It's a meme, alright, but how do you know they don't? (BTW. a month's worth of food takes less space than a month's worth of TP.)
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- justin66 7y ago> BTW. a month's worth of food takes less space than a month's worth of TP. I have questions... that I guess I don't really want to ask.
- downerending 7y agoOne answer is that what comes out is a lot less calorically dense than what goes in. This isn't arbitrary--it's practically a fundamental principle of metabolism/physics. Less isn't zero, though, and lots of life forms live on the output of others. Dung beetles, for example.
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- TeMPOraL 7y agoTo answer the obvious question: it's true if you buy food with sensible caloric and macronutrient density. For instance, in a space of less than one roll of TP, canned meats can supply you with a day's worth of calories - and they're just halfway on the kcal/kg scale (mayonnaise is almost three times denser). If you want a more balanced diet, store flours, pastas, canned fruits&vegs, etc. and then make meals off them. I once did an inventory of the durable food supplies we had around the house, itemizing each product category to account for energy and macronutrients, and then boxed them all up for storage. In the end, I was surprised just how little space a month's worth supply for two takes, even allowing for a balanced diet. I recommend the exercise - especially now, as you'd probably like to know whether your buffer will last as long as you think, and whether it's balanced.
- justin66 7y ago> For instance, in a space of less than one roll of TP, canned meats can supply you with a day's worth of calories - and they're just halfway on the kcal/kg scale (mayonnaise is almost three times that dense). It's not the volumetrically small amount of food you're using that strikes me as curious, it's the spectacularly large amount of toilet paper. Holy shit!
- morelisp 7y ago> a month's worth of food takes less space than a month's worth of TP. I can just barely imagine a month's worth of food fitting in the space of 3-4 TP rolls, but it would be some extremely calorically dense stuff, and if that was what I ate I likely wouldn't need much of the TP. In other words, I can't see how this is possibly true unless you have digestive issues one way or the other.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoWe must be using different kind of TP rolls over here than you have in the US. Perhaps yours are larger and denser?
- drdec 7y agoI suspect I will shower just like the Romans did in the event there is no power.
- ineedasername 7y agoWith oil & a strigil? I think that was often just a precursor to a visit at a Roman bath. I think sand was also used, when available.