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Exact quote regarding a drug not approved by the FDA for treatment of the disease: "We’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately." And:

Exact quote regarding a drug not approved by the FDA for treatment of the disease: "We’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately." And: "It may work, it may not work. I feel good about it. That’s all it is. Just a feeling." From a pharmaceutical company, this would be patently illegal advertising since it's mentioning an off-label use of a drug. From a politician with zero medical knowledge, it's vastly irresponsible given the size of audience who listens to him and trusts him.

tathougies 7y ago
The FDA has approved it as a prescription drug. You shouldn't use a prescription drug unless you have a doctor telling you to. A doctor would know to look for the side effects and contraindications of quinine (of which there are many). Obviously, self medicating a prescription drug is irresponsible. None of what the president says changes that. He said the FDA approved it. Independent of the truth value of that statement, it would still be approved of as a prescription drug.
- triceratops 7y ago
  The FDA has not approved it as a prescription drug for Covid-19. It's approved for malaria.
  - wl 7y ago
    That's not really relevant. A physician can lawfully prescribe it today for COVID-19 despite not being FDA approved for that indication because it's approved for other indications. This is called off-label use. What FDA approval for treating COVID-19 would mean is that the drug could be marketed for such use. In a pandemic, I don't think that's a major consideration.
    - triceratops 7y ago
      It absolutely is relevant. A layperson will hear "chloroquine works on Covid-19. The FDA's approved it. The President himself said so."
      - tathougies 7y ago
        Luckily a lay person cannot get medical grade chloroquine. They can purchase a chemical to use in aquariums, but that is not medication. Those chemicals are not regulated, and may contain all sorts of other compounds that could kill humans, or have an incorrect amount of chloroquine. Sorry, no matter what the president says, self-medicating is nuts.
        freepor 7y ago
        It’s obviously nuts to take medical advice from Donald Trump. However, some people will do it, which makes it irresponsible to give such advice, even obliquely.
        abnry 7y ago
        He didn't give medical advice. He was talking about what the FDA and what hospitals could do. There wasn't oblique advice in the slightest.
        triceratops 7y ago
        > He was talking about what the FDA and what hospitals could do And even that information was wrong. That's the point I'm trying to make.
        tathougies 7y ago
        Thankfully Trump didn't say to take it. He said doctors can prescribe it. Doctors know what dosage is safe (and there is a safe dosage, since quinines are sold at the grocery store all the time), and what contraindications there may be for certain dosages. Your aquarium cleaner box does not.
        triceratops 7y ago
        > self-medicating is nuts. Agreed. > no matter what the president says, That doesn't mean giving prominent authority figures a pass on outright falsehoods. He said the FDA approved chloroquine to be prescribed for Covid-19. The FDA said they had not done that.

tathougies 7y ago

The FDA has approved it as a prescription drug. You shouldn't use a prescription drug unless you have a doctor telling you to. A doctor would know to look for the side effects and contraindications of quinine (of which there are many). Obviously, self medicating a prescription drug is irresponsible. None of what the president says changes that. He said the FDA approved it. Independent of the truth value of that statement, it would still be approved of as a prescription drug.

triceratops 7y ago
The FDA has not approved it as a prescription drug for Covid-19. It's approved for malaria.
- wl 7y ago
  That's not really relevant. A physician can lawfully prescribe it today for COVID-19 despite not being FDA approved for that indication because it's approved for other indications. This is called off-label use. What FDA approval for treating COVID-19 would mean is that the drug could be marketed for such use. In a pandemic, I don't think that's a major consideration.
  - triceratops 7y ago
    It absolutely is relevant. A layperson will hear "chloroquine works on Covid-19. The FDA's approved it. The President himself said so."
    - tathougies 7y ago
      Luckily a lay person cannot get medical grade chloroquine. They can purchase a chemical to use in aquariums, but that is not medication. Those chemicals are not regulated, and may contain all sorts of other compounds that could kill humans, or have an incorrect amount of chloroquine. Sorry, no matter what the president says, self-medicating is nuts.
      - freepor 7y ago
        It’s obviously nuts to take medical advice from Donald Trump. However, some people will do it, which makes it irresponsible to give such advice, even obliquely.
        abnry 7y ago
        He didn't give medical advice. He was talking about what the FDA and what hospitals could do. There wasn't oblique advice in the slightest.
        triceratops 7y ago
        > He was talking about what the FDA and what hospitals could do And even that information was wrong. That's the point I'm trying to make.
        tathougies 7y ago
        Thankfully Trump didn't say to take it. He said doctors can prescribe it. Doctors know what dosage is safe (and there is a safe dosage, since quinines are sold at the grocery store all the time), and what contraindications there may be for certain dosages. Your aquarium cleaner box does not.
      - triceratops 7y ago
        > self-medicating is nuts. Agreed. > no matter what the president says, That doesn't mean giving prominent authority figures a pass on outright falsehoods. He said the FDA approved chloroquine to be prescribed for Covid-19. The FDA said they had not done that.