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He said doctors can administer it under new FDA guidance. He didn't say "drink an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks." http://bannerhealt

He said doctors can administer it under new FDA guidance. He didn't say "drink an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks." http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/chloroquinephosphate http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/chloroquinephosphate I don't see why every story needs to be about him.

whateveracct 7y ago
This story is clearly related to Trump and would not have happened without his statements. Just because he didn't say anything 100% explicitly the cause it and may have been misinterpreted is honestly besides the point. When you are given the power of the presidency, you should either treat your public words with care of just quit forever for all our sakes. This is just how having power _works_. It's a two-way street, and the idealistic American Way. EDIT: Anyone care to explain the downvotes? This is my opinion on those gifted with power in all situations. It goes for companies as well. If you're the CEO, VPE, whatever. There should be checks to balance that gifted power. One check is a higher standard of public speaking due to your newfound influence.
- chrisco255 7y ago
  Simple. You make a clear connection between Trump saying hydroxychloroquine has promise and they're fast-tracking FDA approval to...man consumes fish tank additive. Trump was not even the only high profile person touting it. Elon Musk, too, touts the drug. It's not even clear this man had COVID-19. How much of his actions were driven by the escalating irrational fear on news reports? How much was driven by some random internet forum somewhere making such a suggestion? What was the mental state of the man in question? Why didn't this man seek medical advice before consuming fish tank chemicals? There's a ton about just this one story to unpack, but of course it's been sensationalized as a political hit job.
triceratops 7y ago
The FDA has not approved it for COVID-19.
- redis_mlc 7y ago
  Not sure if that's relevant. Once a drug is approved by the FDA for one disease, it can be used off-label for other purposes.
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  - triceratops 7y ago
    It absolutely is relevant. A layperson will hear "chloroquine works on Covid-19. The FDA's approved it. The President himself said so." Like I could go and say "The FDA has approved Rogaine." It's true, but it's a useless statement in the context of Covid-19.
  - marzell 7y ago
    Iodine is approved for treating exposure to radiation. That doesn't mean it's OK to start drinking from a bottle of industrial-use iodine that isn't made for human consumption.
    - AstralStorm 7y ago
      Likely much safer than taking aquarium cleaner, presuming correct dosage. These things tend to be chemically pure.
drodgers 7y ago
And as we know, the exact wording of Trump's statements is of critical importance to how his supporters interpret them.
anigbrowl 7y ago
But the nice part is, it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if it — if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody. Surely you've noticed that some folk take the President's public statements at face value.
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mindslight 7y ago
> I don't see why every story needs to be about him. He's literally the President. If he didn't want the spotlight on him, he shouldn't have run. If he doesn't want a negative spotlight on him, he should stop confidently proclaiming bullshit that requires nuanced correction to not be actively harmful. It didn't really matter when the topics were just partisan squabbling, as nothing was going to get done anyway. But we're now facing a shared crisis and yet he keeps at the same disruptive boasting. It's inexcusable.

whateveracct 7y ago

This story is clearly related to Trump and would not have happened without his statements. Just because he didn't say anything 100% explicitly the cause it and may have been misinterpreted is honestly besides the point. When you are given the power of the presidency, you should either treat your public words with care of just quit forever for all our sakes. This is just how having power _works_. It's a two-way street, and the idealistic American Way. EDIT: Anyone care to explain the downvotes? This is my opinion on those gifted with power in all situations. It goes for companies as well. If you're the CEO, VPE, whatever. There should be checks to balance that gifted power. One check is a higher standard of public speaking due to your newfound influence.

chrisco255 7y ago
Simple. You make a clear connection between Trump saying hydroxychloroquine has promise and they're fast-tracking FDA approval to...man consumes fish tank additive. Trump was not even the only high profile person touting it. Elon Musk, too, touts the drug. It's not even clear this man had COVID-19. How much of his actions were driven by the escalating irrational fear on news reports? How much was driven by some random internet forum somewhere making such a suggestion? What was the mental state of the man in question? Why didn't this man seek medical advice before consuming fish tank chemicals? There's a ton about just this one story to unpack, but of course it's been sensationalized as a political hit job.

triceratops 7y ago

The FDA has not approved it for COVID-19.

redis_mlc 7y ago
Not sure if that's relevant. Once a drug is approved by the FDA for one disease, it can be used off-label for other purposes.
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- triceratops 7y ago
  It absolutely is relevant. A layperson will hear "chloroquine works on Covid-19. The FDA's approved it. The President himself said so." Like I could go and say "The FDA has approved Rogaine." It's true, but it's a useless statement in the context of Covid-19.
- marzell 7y ago
  Iodine is approved for treating exposure to radiation. That doesn't mean it's OK to start drinking from a bottle of industrial-use iodine that isn't made for human consumption.
  - AstralStorm 7y ago
    Likely much safer than taking aquarium cleaner, presuming correct dosage. These things tend to be chemically pure.

drodgers 7y ago

And as we know, the exact wording of Trump's statements is of critical importance to how his supporters interpret them.

anigbrowl 7y ago

But the nice part is, it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if it — if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody. Surely you've noticed that some folk take the President's public statements at face value.

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mindslight 7y ago

> I don't see why every story needs to be about him. He's literally the President. If he didn't want the spotlight on him, he shouldn't have run. If he doesn't want a negative spotlight on him, he should stop confidently proclaiming bullshit that requires nuanced correction to not be actively harmful. It didn't really matter when the topics were just partisan squabbling, as nothing was going to get done anyway. But we're now facing a shared crisis and yet he keeps at the same disruptive boasting. It's inexcusable.