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Taiwan doing this = effective. china doing this = creepy. however, probably necessary in both cases. perhaps a rhetorical cease-fire globally would benefit us a

Taiwan doing this = effective. china doing this = creepy. however, probably necessary in both cases. perhaps a rhetorical cease-fire globally would benefit us all.

perennate 7y ago
It is probably both effective and creepy in both countries. The article even talks about how some find it creepy: > Taiwan’s electronic fence has drawn some complaints for its intrusiveness. > “It’s creepy that the government is teaming up with telecommunications companies to track our phones,” said a flight attendant in Taipei who was put under 14-day quarantine after returning from Europe in mid-March. > The woman, who identified herself as Xiaomei, said she was scolded by a local administrator after failing to pick up a check-in phone call in the morning when she was asleep. > “They said the police will come to me if I missed another phone call,” she said. “I’m treated like a prisoner.”
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twomoretime 7y ago
One of those countries is an authoritarian "communist" state with a well oiled dissent suppression machine.
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- dang 7y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic or ideological flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
alkonaut 7y ago
> Taiwan doing this = effective. china doing this = creepy That's the difference between a dictatorship and a democracy. You can have at least a little trust in a democracy to do the right thing when it does the necessary evil. This pandemic isn't a reason to take the pressure of china when it comes to human rights. Quite the opposite.
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nerdponx 7y ago
It's creepy in Taiwan too. Maybe necessary in the short term, but how do you get the government to willingly relinquish this kind of control once the need has passed? They will just keep making up reasons to keep it going, and eventually it will just become normalized and nobody will care that the government is literally tracking them 24/7 like Big Brother.

Taiwan doing this = effective. china doing this = creepy. however, probably necessary in both cases. perhaps a rhetorical cease-fire globally would benefit us all.

perennate 7y ago

It is probably both effective and creepy in both countries. The article even talks about how some find it creepy: > Taiwan’s electronic fence has drawn some complaints for its intrusiveness. > “It’s creepy that the government is teaming up with telecommunications companies to track our phones,” said a flight attendant in Taipei who was put under 14-day quarantine after returning from Europe in mid-March. > The woman, who identified herself as Xiaomei, said she was scolded by a local administrator after failing to pick up a check-in phone call in the morning when she was asleep. > “They said the police will come to me if I missed another phone call,” she said. “I’m treated like a prisoner.”

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twomoretime 7y ago

One of those countries is an authoritarian "communist" state with a well oiled dissent suppression machine.

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dang 7y ago
Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic or ideological flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

alkonaut 7y ago

> Taiwan doing this = effective. china doing this = creepy That's the difference between a dictatorship and a democracy. You can have at least a little trust in a democracy to do the right thing when it does the necessary evil. This pandemic isn't a reason to take the pressure of china when it comes to human rights. Quite the opposite.

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nerdponx 7y ago

It's creepy in Taiwan too. Maybe necessary in the short term, but how do you get the government to willingly relinquish this kind of control once the need has passed? They will just keep making up reasons to keep it going, and eventually it will just become normalized and nobody will care that the government is literally tracking them 24/7 like Big Brother.