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Individual privacy is where I draw a line in the sand. I'm ready to do many things, but that does not include allowing geotracking, geofencing or any other res
by 1996 7y ago
Individual privacy is where I draw a line in the sand.
I'm ready to do many things, but that does not include allowing geotracking, geofencing or any other restriction on the freedom of movement and freedom of assembly.
The government can shut businesses, shut public parks and beaches, but what we do in our homes, clubs and other private properties is off limits.
- isoprophlex 7y agoI agree completely. I found this FT article by Harari a very lucid and accessible essay on how we should handle the crisis. https://www.ft.com/content/19d90308-6858-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75 https://www.ft.com/content/19d90308-6858-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcc... How we decide to strike a balance between privacy and safety today will determine the shape of our world in the coming decades.
- aplummer 7y ago> any other restriction on the freedom of movement and freedom of assembly. > clubs and other private properties is off limits. To give you the benefit of the doubt, you don’t mean that you refuse to have temporarily restricted movement during a pandemic?
- ndiscussion 7y agoI believe that is what they refuse. I refuse it.
- aplummer 7y agoWow. It’s so selfish to sacrifice other people’s lives for your own delusional paranoia.
- jlokier 7y agoIt's worse than delusional paranoia. Because it's not necessarily delusional, or paranoid. Give them the benefit of the doubt: Assume they are competent, healthy adults, who really believe in what they say. With that assumed, it's someone choosing to sacrifice other people's lives for their political values. Personally I think that situation crosses the "your right to swing your fist ends at my nose" line. We should certainly build systems that protect privacy if we can, to the extent we can. I'm very pro privacy, not against privacy at all. But to the extent values conflict in a material situation, such as privacy versus not harming other people in a deadly way as the current crisis, we have to choose priorities, and then be smart and subtle about retaining as much of our overall values as we still can given the priorities.
- 1996 7y ago> With that assumed, it's someone choosing to sacrifice other people's lives for their political values. No, not just other peoples - that includes my own life too. The freedoms enshrined upon us by the constitution are not negotiable. "shall make no law" admits no exception. > we have to choose priorities I chose mine.
- aplummer 7y ago> No, not just other peoples - that includes my own life too. Glad you don’t get to make that decision on behalf of other people, and those actions are at least illegal in California. I also think it’s nonsense to imply you are putting yourself at any real risk, if you were immunocompromised or elderly you wouldn’t have such a callous attitude.
- 1996 7y ago> those actions are at least illegal in California. Time will tell if California had the right to treat the constitution just like toilet paper. I know TP in short supply there at the moment, but the end doesn't justify the means. That's what constitutions are for.
- jlokier 7y agoConstitutions are for many things. A well written constitution allows for provisions to be suspended and outweighed in a state of emergency. Ideally it has a mechanism for doing so where possible, and for limiting the effect and scrutinising it, treating such a state as a serious exception to the normal state of things. Constitutions are a tool and an inspiration for better society. They are not able to anticipate or codify every situation, though. Ideally they themselves codify recognition of that, and govern how exceptions are to be handled with care.
- O_H_E 7y agoI sometimes don't get why some Americans worship the Constitution like that. It was written by humans Albeit educated, thoughtful people who greatly cared about it, but still more or less humans.
- nqwenklzb 7y agoyou are the delusional one and you are a raging shithead to boot
- TeMPOraL 7y ago> any other restriction on the freedom of movement and freedom of assembly People abusing these freedoms in spite of lockdowns are what's going to kill hundreds of thousands of people in the coming days.
- 1996 7y agoIf the cost of liberty is hundred thousands of life, let it be. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
- O_H_E 7y agoUnfortunately, that qoute was taken out of context: https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben-franklin-really-said
- Rooki 7y agoI'd argue those who give up the safety of others, to purchase a little temporary liberty for themselves, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
- nixenboxen 7y agoI want you to personally visit the families of every dead person after this and say this to them.
- nqwenklzb 7y agoyou are a fucking dumbshit