> I'd say by any definition of "We can at least all agree on a definition" that I'd accept, we can either all agree on the definition of both or neither. It's

> I'd say by any definition of "We can at least all agree on a definition" that I'd accept, we can either all agree on the definition of both or neither. It's a turn of phrase, I don't mean that literally all people will always agree on the definition of the word, I mean, practically speaking, outside of "pedantry" and "academic hogwash". I mean the scientific definition with empirical outcomes.