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I'm in the exact same (3 and 6) position. My neighbors and I have created a small isolation group. We all are sheltering in place as if we were one family. I

by throwaway12038 7y ago

I'm in the exact same (3 and 6) position. My neighbors and I have created a small isolation group. We all are sheltering in place as if we were one family. It's been working out on sharing the load. We had a discussion about the severity and likelihood of an infection in our group and that if that happened we'd all be on quarantine because of the shared exposure. This has meant not sending my child to daycare even though it's open. It's also meant getting up 2 hours earlier to get started earlier. I also sent a schedule to my entire team so they knew exactly when I was teaching our kids and when I'm available. We as a group are trying to balance our civic duty with a rational understanding of this disease. If I didn't have that I'd have emailed my team that I was reducing my hours from 8-> 4-6 and I'd have been very clear. I cannot make up enough time to get everything done. I'd have used vacation or sick leave where possible and weathered this storm. If we stop doing the shared community I will do that. And as a Lead, I'd be ok with anyone on my team doing that. This disease does not affect everyone equally. We have to take on additional burden for others where possible and be accommodating for those who can't.

stef25 7y ago
Does nobody in that isolation group come in contact with anyone but people in the group? Cause all it takes is one of those to enter a supermarket, get infected and your cordon sanitaire is busted. We specifically cancelled our babysitter and cleaning person because of this (increasing our workload even more ...) I still go out for groceries and a jog but at least the possible infections points has been reduced from 3 to 1.
- throwaway12038 7y ago
  Everyone in the group is WFH. The only increase is in grocery store visits which we try to minimize with venmo. We too canceled our Daycare and Cleaners (although we continue to pay them because we want to support local businesses and our pay has not been interrupted). Everyone else in the group has done the same. EDITED: You are 100% correct in that this is limited to the weakest point in the chain which is whoever breaks the rules and unavoidable exposure (grocery store visits and gas station visits). But what is that percentage increase? I suspect our chance of getting COVID-19 from the grocery store is 3x whatever going to the grocery store is. Which we all use the same stores and the same people are there so if there is an infection there it's likely less that 3x due to that fact. You can't reduce your exposure 100% you can minimize as much as possible while trying to keep the economy going as much as possible. This is the balance we've struck. If we couldn't do this, we wouldn't get the hours in we need to in order to continue to pay the cleaners/daycare. I'll also point out I'm not in a shelter in place state. If that guidance comes out I'm not sure this will keep going. We re-evaluate every week. EDIT: If anyone in the group wasn't WFH and wasn't grocery store only operation my family wouldn't do this. We'd deem that as too much exposure.
- mcv 7y ago
  We cancelled our cleaner, but our babysitter comes more often, specifically to take care of the children while we work. We've got two kids (5 and 10), and while the 10 is not a problem, the 5 absolutely needs guidance in everything or he'll tear the house down. Meanwhile the babysitter lost all her babysitter and restaurant work and can't go to the university, so she's available and thankful to have some work. She does break our isolation of course, but isolation doesn't have to be perfect quarantine, and we trust her enough to be responsible in her own contacts.
- throwaway12038 7y ago
  As an update. Our state went to shelter in place and we have decided that our setup cannot go on during a shelter in place order. So we have postponed it for the duration.
  - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
    Thanks for updating us. I think that is unfortunately what makes sense. If I had little kids I'd really want that chance for them to interact with others, but it's a struggle to change that in the current situation. I have a teenager and he's hating everything about staying home.

stef25 7y ago

Does nobody in that isolation group come in contact with anyone but people in the group? Cause all it takes is one of those to enter a supermarket, get infected and your cordon sanitaire is busted. We specifically cancelled our babysitter and cleaning person because of this (increasing our workload even more ...) I still go out for groceries and a jog but at least the possible infections points has been reduced from 3 to 1.

throwaway12038 7y ago
Everyone in the group is WFH. The only increase is in grocery store visits which we try to minimize with venmo. We too canceled our Daycare and Cleaners (although we continue to pay them because we want to support local businesses and our pay has not been interrupted). Everyone else in the group has done the same. EDITED: You are 100% correct in that this is limited to the weakest point in the chain which is whoever breaks the rules and unavoidable exposure (grocery store visits and gas station visits). But what is that percentage increase? I suspect our chance of getting COVID-19 from the grocery store is 3x whatever going to the grocery store is. Which we all use the same stores and the same people are there so if there is an infection there it's likely less that 3x due to that fact. You can't reduce your exposure 100% you can minimize as much as possible while trying to keep the economy going as much as possible. This is the balance we've struck. If we couldn't do this, we wouldn't get the hours in we need to in order to continue to pay the cleaners/daycare. I'll also point out I'm not in a shelter in place state. If that guidance comes out I'm not sure this will keep going. We re-evaluate every week. EDIT: If anyone in the group wasn't WFH and wasn't grocery store only operation my family wouldn't do this. We'd deem that as too much exposure.
mcv 7y ago
We cancelled our cleaner, but our babysitter comes more often, specifically to take care of the children while we work. We've got two kids (5 and 10), and while the 10 is not a problem, the 5 absolutely needs guidance in everything or he'll tear the house down. Meanwhile the babysitter lost all her babysitter and restaurant work and can't go to the university, so she's available and thankful to have some work. She does break our isolation of course, but isolation doesn't have to be perfect quarantine, and we trust her enough to be responsible in her own contacts.
throwaway12038 7y ago
As an update. Our state went to shelter in place and we have decided that our setup cannot go on during a shelter in place order. So we have postponed it for the duration.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  Thanks for updating us. I think that is unfortunately what makes sense. If I had little kids I'd really want that chance for them to interact with others, but it's a struggle to change that in the current situation. I have a teenager and he's hating everything about staying home.