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> If your boss/manager/etc is excited about this feature as a way to monitor you, odds are they already have you under surveillance in a bunch of other ways. It

> If your boss/manager/etc is excited about this feature as a way to monitor you, odds are they already have you under surveillance in a bunch of other ways. It's unfortunate that you are in this situation, and I hope you're able to find a way out of it soon (e.g. by switching teams or finding another company that values and trusts you more). I can't stand people who get excited at the thought of tracking their employees. What's the benefit? Control? Ego?

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
If Zoom is actually reporting that people are inactive after 30 seconds of no having the window focused, then all the people watching on a second screen while they have relevant docs pulled up on the other are getting stuck in the same category as the people playing games, and might even be getting penalized more than someone who's got Zoom open on one PC and is playing LoL on a different PC entirely. Deeply flawed, IMO.
allenskd 7y ago
I'd lean that they are probably control freaks. But there's probably more to it than that and ultimately it seems it boils down to "I'm paying you to work thus it's my right to track your every movement" Years ago I had a boss but set up security cameras. Normally, this is completely okay because you gotta secure the building you just never know who's gonna come in and rob the place or maybe track an incident (rape, violence, etc). This boss of mine however went home or worked from home from time to time or sometimes he would go on a vacation and he would just connect to the video stream of the security cameras. One day I was the only one in the building as I still had to finish my shift. He gaves me a call, he didn't say he was monitoring me of course but he seemed to know what I was doing and proceeded to ask the following question: is everything okay? how's the workload etc etc. Common questions, nothing out of the ordinary. So it seemed he just called because I wasn't receiving a lot of support calls and sometimes I would just go get coffee he probably saw me standing a lot, maybe thought I was neglecting my job. I can be incredibly outspoken at times. A lot of the things in the call just screamed "I'm monitoring you". When the call ended I was furious. There's nothing more damaging than not trusting your employees. It breaks trust and relationships. I've never in my professional life felt so insulted that I need someone to monitor me. If you are this type of manager/supervisor: Kindly put, shame on you. I say kindly put because the words I want to say can't be conveyed here without getting moderated. Cease and rethink your strategy, we are professionals not kids or teenagers and doing this to teenagers remember you are growing professionals, nothing like giving them the ground to grow but if they find stuff like this you are destroying everything. To workers that are aware I can only hope you find other jobs. It's stressful enough, no need to tolerate this behavior.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  You're upset that your boss looked at you while you were working, and didn't have any complaints about the behavior that you thought looked suspicious?
  - allenskd 7y ago
    I didn't know getting coffee was a suspicious behavior :)
threatofrain 7y ago
Your individuality is someone else’s business and career uncertainty.

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago

If Zoom is actually reporting that people are inactive after 30 seconds of no having the window focused, then all the people watching on a second screen while they have relevant docs pulled up on the other are getting stuck in the same category as the people playing games, and might even be getting penalized more than someone who's got Zoom open on one PC and is playing LoL on a different PC entirely. Deeply flawed, IMO.

allenskd 7y ago

I'd lean that they are probably control freaks. But there's probably more to it than that and ultimately it seems it boils down to "I'm paying you to work thus it's my right to track your every movement" Years ago I had a boss but set up security cameras. Normally, this is completely okay because you gotta secure the building you just never know who's gonna come in and rob the place or maybe track an incident (rape, violence, etc). This boss of mine however went home or worked from home from time to time or sometimes he would go on a vacation and he would just connect to the video stream of the security cameras. One day I was the only one in the building as I still had to finish my shift. He gaves me a call, he didn't say he was monitoring me of course but he seemed to know what I was doing and proceeded to ask the following question: is everything okay? how's the workload etc etc. Common questions, nothing out of the ordinary. So it seemed he just called because I wasn't receiving a lot of support calls and sometimes I would just go get coffee he probably saw me standing a lot, maybe thought I was neglecting my job. I can be incredibly outspoken at times. A lot of the things in the call just screamed "I'm monitoring you". When the call ended I was furious. There's nothing more damaging than not trusting your employees. It breaks trust and relationships. I've never in my professional life felt so insulted that I need someone to monitor me. If you are this type of manager/supervisor: Kindly put, shame on you. I say kindly put because the words I want to say can't be conveyed here without getting moderated. Cease and rethink your strategy, we are professionals not kids or teenagers and doing this to teenagers remember you are growing professionals, nothing like giving them the ground to grow but if they find stuff like this you are destroying everything. To workers that are aware I can only hope you find other jobs. It's stressful enough, no need to tolerate this behavior.

lonelappde 7y ago
You're upset that your boss looked at you while you were working, and didn't have any complaints about the behavior that you thought looked suspicious?
- allenskd 7y ago
  I didn't know getting coffee was a suspicious behavior :)

threatofrain 7y ago

Your individuality is someone else’s business and career uncertainty.