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It's a good thing that everyone makes their own discord "server", which naturally is resilient to any failures upstream by virtue of being its own fully contain

It's a good thing that everyone makes their own discord "server", which naturally is resilient to any failures upstream by virtue of being its own fully contained, self-hosted software stack. Wait, no, Discord just aped that word to gaslight users into behaving in a way which makes them more money.

foota 7y ago
Discord servers are free. I fail to see how this was a move to make more money.
- ddevault 7y ago
  Ah, yes, I forgot that Discord runs their services out of the goodness in their hearts. That explains the $20B valuation.
  - gsich 7y ago
    The valuation comes from data. Text and voice. The later to feed some AI.
ReidZB 7y ago
That does not seem like a very generous interpretation. I'd wager that most of Discord's clientele don't have any specific expectations for the word "server". Regardless, I think "server" was carried over from the Mumble / Ventrilo / Teamspeak gaming community.
- Slartie 7y ago
  That's where it came from. Before discord, gamers set up actual servers with Teamspeak or Mumble and handed the IPs and ports to their guildmates. The "Teamspeak server" was where you met for voice chatting, and since Discord just wanted to supplant Teamspeak with their own product, they kept the "server" part in the name of the thing that gamers were supposed to meet for voice chatting. It is a pure marketing ploy. Internally they call the "server" thing a "guild" AFAIK, which is technically just as much BS as the "server" moniker, but for other reasons (not every community using Discord is a "guild" in the commonly accepted meaning of that word in the gaming world, which is a long-term organizational group doing stuff together in an MMORPG).
sneak 7y ago
I thought I was alone in being above-average annoyed at their (IMO deceitful) use of the term. Thank you for posting this.
zacksinclair 7y ago
I don't put this on Discord - the word "server" has a substantially different meaning to varying constituencies and Discord is certainly not the first to use it in a way different from CS101.
Jasper_ 7y ago
The use of "server" to mean "instance" is very old. For efficiency's sake, multiple separate instances of old FPS games can be run in a single process, but I doubt you would object to the vernacular of "Quake server" as short-hand for "server-side Quake game instance". Also, Discord internally calls them guilds.
hombre_fatal 7y ago
> gaslight People on the internet really love abusing this word, especially Twitter. Lately, I've seen "he's gaslighting the world!" used in place of a public lie.
- brian_herman 7y ago
  I think it is to the point where the word has lost it's original meaning.
de_watcher 7y ago
They had to take the "server" term from TeamSpeak and other similar software. That's what gamers call the communication spaces. Internally they name them "guilds" or something.

foota 7y ago

Discord servers are free. I fail to see how this was a move to make more money.

ddevault 7y ago
Ah, yes, I forgot that Discord runs their services out of the goodness in their hearts. That explains the $20B valuation.
- gsich 7y ago
  The valuation comes from data. Text and voice. The later to feed some AI.

ReidZB 7y ago

That does not seem like a very generous interpretation. I'd wager that most of Discord's clientele don't have any specific expectations for the word "server". Regardless, I think "server" was carried over from the Mumble / Ventrilo / Teamspeak gaming community.

Slartie 7y ago
That's where it came from. Before discord, gamers set up actual servers with Teamspeak or Mumble and handed the IPs and ports to their guildmates. The "Teamspeak server" was where you met for voice chatting, and since Discord just wanted to supplant Teamspeak with their own product, they kept the "server" part in the name of the thing that gamers were supposed to meet for voice chatting. It is a pure marketing ploy. Internally they call the "server" thing a "guild" AFAIK, which is technically just as much BS as the "server" moniker, but for other reasons (not every community using Discord is a "guild" in the commonly accepted meaning of that word in the gaming world, which is a long-term organizational group doing stuff together in an MMORPG).

sneak 7y ago

I thought I was alone in being above-average annoyed at their (IMO deceitful) use of the term. Thank you for posting this.

zacksinclair 7y ago

I don't put this on Discord - the word "server" has a substantially different meaning to varying constituencies and Discord is certainly not the first to use it in a way different from CS101.

Jasper_ 7y ago

The use of "server" to mean "instance" is very old. For efficiency's sake, multiple separate instances of old FPS games can be run in a single process, but I doubt you would object to the vernacular of "Quake server" as short-hand for "server-side Quake game instance". Also, Discord internally calls them guilds.

hombre_fatal 7y ago

> gaslight People on the internet really love abusing this word, especially Twitter. Lately, I've seen "he's gaslighting the world!" used in place of a public lie.

brian_herman 7y ago
I think it is to the point where the word has lost it's original meaning.

de_watcher 7y ago

They had to take the "server" term from TeamSpeak and other similar software. That's what gamers call the communication spaces. Internally they name them "guilds" or something.