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I struggle with this, I feel like unless I go off the grid and become self sufficient I can't say I'm 100% positive I'm not exploiting someone.
by werber 7y ago
I struggle with this, I feel like unless I go off the grid and become self sufficient I can't say I'm 100% positive I'm not exploiting someone.
- computerex 7y agoTwo wrongs don't make a right. If we can't completely eliminate suffering of others 100%, we can at the very least try and minimize it.
- Kaiyou 7y agoWhat have you done personally to try to minimize the suffering of others?
- matt-attack 7y agoIf you see any and all exchanges of money for goods & services to be exploitation, then you need to get your head checked.
- werber 7y agoNo no, but the what if someone down the supply chain is being exploited and as the end user I’m responsible
- pja 7y agoThe Good Place made a point of this! They (kind of arbitrarily ) placed the last date it was possible to exist without exploiting other people’s misfortune in some way back in the 1600s.
- carapace 7y agoMy sister watches that show and... SPOILER ALERT!! I caught the episode where they detail how every act you perform in modern life has so many negative consequences and repercussions that everyone on Earth has, for centuries, wound up going to Hell. It haunts me because it's true. (Not the going-to-hell bit, the part about how things are so interconnected and so fucked up that you can't wipe your ass without damaging the environment, and that's even before you get to the luxury phones made by de facto slave labor.) "There's got to be a better way!"
- Kaiyou 7y agoIt's the way of the world. Instead of trying to change the world, you could try adjusting your moral framework to be more in line with the world. Also, trying to change the world without first changing yourself is futile. And if you changed your way to put the benefits of others over yourself it would just amount to suicide, leaving the world as it is.
- carapace 7y agoWhat moral framework can countenance the destruction of the Monarch butterfly?
- lonelappde 7y agoOnly because exploiting animals wasn't considered to count.
- tracker1 7y agoWell, you'd then be reducing the demand on market conditions reducing jobs, if that's worse than someone working making less than you... You'd also be living in a relative state of luxury using far more land than the average person can reasonably acquire and live on. The problem is that nothing is fair or perfect, and any system that tried becomes far more unfair and restrictive in practice.
- Kaiyou 7y agoNotice how fairness is only something people try to accomplish if it benefits them. As soon as they themselves have an unfair advantage, they won't give up their benefits to achieve fairness.