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Before the virus, the global supply of Remdesivir was only enough to treat a few hundred people. Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are apparently very easy to

Before the virus, the global supply of Remdesivir was only enough to treat a few hundred people. Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are apparently very easy to make, and can be scaled up very quickly. Not sure about the last two. Regardless, WHO should be doing trials on more over-the-counter products. It's dumb that they put out a statement warning people that there was no evidence that Garlic could be used as an antiviral, despite the fact that literally two days ago the FDA granted emergency expanded access for some multi-million dollar inhaled nitric oxide device based on the fact that nitric oxide has been shown to block the replication of SARS-CoV in vitro. (Guess the mechanism of action by which eating raw garlic nearly instantly lowers your blood pressure.) Sources here: https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19stack/ https://www.reddit.com/r/covid19stack/

throwanem 7y ago
You're not telling the full story. That approval was for compassionate use, i.e. it can be used in patients who are already in grave danger of death, because at that point it can't hurt and there's nothing known to have a chance of helping anyway. And the article you're referencing chooses to link press releases, but only vaguely mention studies not only without linking but without even providing enough information to identify them - which hardly inspires confidence. And the subreddit from which you're getting it is...wow. Just an absolute heap of fear-driven misinformation, and while I'm not without compassion for the people there who feel the urge to do something to protect themselves in the face of a very frightening situation, it's important to try to keep a clear enough head to understand the difference between developing knowledge and multiplying tiny probabilities into meaningless, misleading rumors. That subreddit is doing the second one of those, not the first. For the sake of your own emotional wellbeing, please consider taking it less seriously. edit: Oh, sorry, I hadn't noticed that the people posting in that subreddit are basically 90% you. So, I guess I'm warning everybody else off it, and asking you to consider doing less of this, in the cause of everyone else's emotional wellbeing.
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- Alex3917 7y ago
  > Just an absolute heap of fear-driven misinformation The vast majority of links are just to metastudies and literature reviews. If you think the Cochrane review studies or whatever are fear-driven misinformation then you should complain to them for creating them, not me for posting them. Literally today Trump put out a statement saying that he's considering just sending everyone back to work and letting everyone get it all at once.[1] If that happens then the medical system basically won't even exist for 90% of people. What exactly do you propose that people should do in that scenario, just sit around drinking Gatorade and waiting to die? [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-restrictions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/trump-coronav...
  - throwanem 7y ago
    You know what? Fuck you. Yeah, I know that's outside the HN civility rules, and I've been trying to be the better person in all this, but I've got three degrees of fever since this morning, and I'm starting to cough, and all my joints ache and my head aches and I can't eat and I feel like dogshit, like I've got a bad flu that's trying to crawl down into my chest, and I am all out of patience with people like you. I haven't been tested and I don't expect to be unless I end up in the hospital, because my state doesn't have nearly enough to go around, but the symptoms check out for COVID-19, and you know what? I hope that's exactly what this is. I hope that a lot. Because I live alone, and I can self-isolate without a problem, just as I've been doing for a couple weeks now, if this is COVID-19 that I've got. And I'm young enough and healthy enough that I'm not going to die of it, if it is. And if it is, then the antibodies I'm brewing up right now, if we start doing serum transfusions as a temporary measure, are the same ones I'll take with me when I go volunteer to donate as much plasma as they'll let me give. Because - much more than just staying home and not coughing on people - that's something real I can do to fight this thing. Something I can do to help sick people get well, or help healthy people stay that way. Something I can do that counts. So, yeah. I hope I've got it. Because odds are I'll get it sooner or later, and sooner means a better chance to have some good come out of it. What the hell are you doing?

throwanem 7y ago

You're not telling the full story. That approval was for compassionate use, i.e. it can be used in patients who are already in grave danger of death, because at that point it can't hurt and there's nothing known to have a chance of helping anyway. And the article you're referencing chooses to link press releases, but only vaguely mention studies not only without linking but without even providing enough information to identify them - which hardly inspires confidence. And the subreddit from which you're getting it is...wow. Just an absolute heap of fear-driven misinformation, and while I'm not without compassion for the people there who feel the urge to do something to protect themselves in the face of a very frightening situation, it's important to try to keep a clear enough head to understand the difference between developing knowledge and multiplying tiny probabilities into meaningless, misleading rumors. That subreddit is doing the second one of those, not the first. For the sake of your own emotional wellbeing, please consider taking it less seriously. edit: Oh, sorry, I hadn't noticed that the people posting in that subreddit are basically 90% you. So, I guess I'm warning everybody else off it, and asking you to consider doing less of this, in the cause of everyone else's emotional wellbeing.

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Alex3917 7y ago
> Just an absolute heap of fear-driven misinformation The vast majority of links are just to metastudies and literature reviews. If you think the Cochrane review studies or whatever are fear-driven misinformation then you should complain to them for creating them, not me for posting them. Literally today Trump put out a statement saying that he's considering just sending everyone back to work and letting everyone get it all at once.[1] If that happens then the medical system basically won't even exist for 90% of people. What exactly do you propose that people should do in that scenario, just sit around drinking Gatorade and waiting to die? [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-restrictions.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/politics/trump-coronav...
- throwanem 7y ago
  You know what? Fuck you. Yeah, I know that's outside the HN civility rules, and I've been trying to be the better person in all this, but I've got three degrees of fever since this morning, and I'm starting to cough, and all my joints ache and my head aches and I can't eat and I feel like dogshit, like I've got a bad flu that's trying to crawl down into my chest, and I am all out of patience with people like you. I haven't been tested and I don't expect to be unless I end up in the hospital, because my state doesn't have nearly enough to go around, but the symptoms check out for COVID-19, and you know what? I hope that's exactly what this is. I hope that a lot. Because I live alone, and I can self-isolate without a problem, just as I've been doing for a couple weeks now, if this is COVID-19 that I've got. And I'm young enough and healthy enough that I'm not going to die of it, if it is. And if it is, then the antibodies I'm brewing up right now, if we start doing serum transfusions as a temporary measure, are the same ones I'll take with me when I go volunteer to donate as much plasma as they'll let me give. Because - much more than just staying home and not coughing on people - that's something real I can do to fight this thing. Something I can do to help sick people get well, or help healthy people stay that way. Something I can do that counts. So, yeah. I hope I've got it. Because odds are I'll get it sooner or later, and sooner means a better chance to have some good come out of it. What the hell are you doing?