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On the flip-side, businesses that rely on ad revenue would disappear. That means most of the commonly used websites. No more Google, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit,

On the flip-side, businesses that rely on ad revenue would disappear. That means most of the commonly used websites. No more Google, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, Twitch, almost all news sites etc. This also means that everything goes back to essentially subscription only and this without a credit card don't get much access to stuff (like it used to be).

mantas 7y ago
How did TV and paper press existed? Non-targeted advertising brings €€€ too.
- Mirioron 7y ago
  Paper press has been disappearing for quite a while even with subscription fees. They're often bankrolled by rich people or companies and likely aren't impartial. I'm not sure TV is a good example either. The number of TV channels isn't that great. At the same time TV channels have a ridiculous amount of ads and they engage in all kinds of shady practices to sell you on something you don't want. Or in the cases of things like the BBC they extort the taxpayer.
  - mantas 7y ago
    Paper press and TV did really well for decades. Sure, once targeted advertising came around, everyone jumped onto it and non-targeted advertising started to fall. But if targeted advertising would be outlawed, most of that budget would just return to other advertising channels. Other advertising channels as in not-targeted ads in websites/youtube/etc. Classic paper and tv are gone for good IMO. > TV channels have a ridiculous amount of ads and they engage in all kinds of shady practices to sell you on something you don't want Not much worse than interwebs if you disable AdBlock&friends...
    - Mirioron 7y ago
      I think TV ads are much worse than ads on the internet. Imagine YouTube, where you have to watch an ad that's a fifth of the length of the video for every video. 10 minute video? 2 minutes of unskippable ads. Right now we tend to have skippable ads that are much shorter.
bryanlarsen 7y ago
Which is one reason why pigouvian taxes are better than banning it completely.

mantas 7y ago

How did TV and paper press existed? Non-targeted advertising brings €€€ too.

Mirioron 7y ago
Paper press has been disappearing for quite a while even with subscription fees. They're often bankrolled by rich people or companies and likely aren't impartial. I'm not sure TV is a good example either. The number of TV channels isn't that great. At the same time TV channels have a ridiculous amount of ads and they engage in all kinds of shady practices to sell you on something you don't want. Or in the cases of things like the BBC they extort the taxpayer.
- mantas 7y ago
  Paper press and TV did really well for decades. Sure, once targeted advertising came around, everyone jumped onto it and non-targeted advertising started to fall. But if targeted advertising would be outlawed, most of that budget would just return to other advertising channels. Other advertising channels as in not-targeted ads in websites/youtube/etc. Classic paper and tv are gone for good IMO. > TV channels have a ridiculous amount of ads and they engage in all kinds of shady practices to sell you on something you don't want Not much worse than interwebs if you disable AdBlock&friends...
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    I think TV ads are much worse than ads on the internet. Imagine YouTube, where you have to watch an ad that's a fifth of the length of the video for every video. 10 minute video? 2 minutes of unskippable ads. Right now we tend to have skippable ads that are much shorter.

bryanlarsen 7y ago

Which is one reason why pigouvian taxes are better than banning it completely.