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Re: drone + artillery, do you have a link to more details? That accuracy look pretty crazy for first shot hits. I was under the impression that 10s of meters wa

Re: drone + artillery, do you have a link to more details? That accuracy look pretty crazy for first shot hits. I was under the impression that 10s of meters was state of the art for indirect fire. Is the drone acting as FO for very high precision artillery fire with GLONAS/GPS guidance? Or is it actively targeting (laser etc) for terminal guidance of the shells?

AdrianB1 7y ago
It is a combination of all: firing computers, GPS and high-res terrain maps allows artillery to shoot more accurately, drones to do corrections, there are a number of guided (and extremely expensive) artillery shells with various guidance systems.
- paganel 7y ago
  Worth mentioning that the Russian Krasnopol does not use GLONASS (and I guess not high-res terrain maps either), which makes it less expensive compared to its NATO equivalents. From this page [1]: > A single Krasnopol shell costs around $35 000. That's significantly less that the cost of a single US GPS-guided Excalibur. Although the Excalibur has nearly twice the range and is more reliable. Couldn't quickly find the cost for a single Excalibur shell, maybe someone else can fill in the information. [1] http://www.military-today.com/artillery/krasnopol.htm http://www.military-today.com/artillery/krasnopol.htm
paganel 7y ago
> Or is it actively targeting (laser etc) for terminal guidance of the shells? Seems like that is the case, yes, at least from what I could read on the wiki page I linked in a comment above [1] > drone + artillery, do you have a link to more details? Not necessarily what you asked for but this targeted Google search [2] (which is in fact a /r/syriancivilwar search) can give you an idea of what the Russian implementation of this technology can do (I didn't catch the name of the Turkish/NATO implementation of it on the other side). Looking at this tweet [3] from 2 days ago it seems that the technology has evolved quite rapidly, that poster is linking to a tweet from late 2017 when the Russians were still in the early test phase of it all. [4] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system) [2] https://www.google.com/search?ei=DcV4XoXYLrGhmwXRoZ_oBg&q=Krasnopol+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fsyriancivilwar%2F&oq=Krasnopol+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fsyriancivilwar%2F&gs_l=psy-ab.3...4107.4107..4650...0.0..0.151.341.1j2......0....1..gws-wiz.cgC3sViemYg&ved=0ahUKEwjFkrXm5LDoAhWx0KYKHdHQB20Q4dUDCAs&uact=5 https://www.google.com/search?ei=DcV4XoXYLrGhmwXRoZ_oBg&q=Kr... [3] https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1241088031974662149 https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1241088031974662149 [4] https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/931856689309110272 https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/931856689309110272
KineticLensman 7y ago
> I was under the impression that 10s of meters was state of the art for indirect fire. GLMRS [0] - 'the 70km sniper' - is a precision indirect fire weapon. [0] https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/uk-complex-weapons/guided-multiple-launch-rocket-system-gmlrs/ https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/uk-complex-weapons/guided-mul...

AdrianB1 7y ago

It is a combination of all: firing computers, GPS and high-res terrain maps allows artillery to shoot more accurately, drones to do corrections, there are a number of guided (and extremely expensive) artillery shells with various guidance systems.

paganel 7y ago
Worth mentioning that the Russian Krasnopol does not use GLONASS (and I guess not high-res terrain maps either), which makes it less expensive compared to its NATO equivalents. From this page [1]: > A single Krasnopol shell costs around $35 000. That's significantly less that the cost of a single US GPS-guided Excalibur. Although the Excalibur has nearly twice the range and is more reliable. Couldn't quickly find the cost for a single Excalibur shell, maybe someone else can fill in the information. [1] http://www.military-today.com/artillery/krasnopol.htm http://www.military-today.com/artillery/krasnopol.htm

paganel 7y ago

> Or is it actively targeting (laser etc) for terminal guidance of the shells? Seems like that is the case, yes, at least from what I could read on the wiki page I linked in a comment above [1] > drone + artillery, do you have a link to more details? Not necessarily what you asked for but this targeted Google search [2] (which is in fact a /r/syriancivilwar search) can give you an idea of what the Russian implementation of this technology can do (I didn't catch the name of the Turkish/NATO implementation of it on the other side). Looking at this tweet [3] from 2 days ago it seems that the technology has evolved quite rapidly, that poster is linking to a tweet from late 2017 when the Russians were still in the early test phase of it all. [4] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system) [2] https://www.google.com/search?ei=DcV4XoXYLrGhmwXRoZ_oBg&q=Krasnopol+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fsyriancivilwar%2F&oq=Krasnopol+site%3Areddit.com%2Fr%2Fsyriancivilwar%2F&gs_l=psy-ab.3...4107.4107..4650...0.0..0.151.341.1j2......0....1..gws-wiz.cgC3sViemYg&ved=0ahUKEwjFkrXm5LDoAhWx0KYKHdHQB20Q4dUDCAs&uact=5 https://www.google.com/search?ei=DcV4XoXYLrGhmwXRoZ_oBg&q=Kr... [3] https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1241088031974662149 https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1241088031974662149 [4] https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/931856689309110272 https://twitter.com/warsmonitoring/status/931856689309110272

KineticLensman 7y ago

> I was under the impression that 10s of meters was state of the art for indirect fire. GLMRS [0] - 'the 70km sniper' - is a precision indirect fire weapon. [0] https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/uk-complex-weapons/guided-multiple-launch-rocket-system-gmlrs/ https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/uk-complex-weapons/guided-mul...