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> Their healthcare system is now the 2nd worst in the EU WHAT? Now I haven't been to every European country, probably around 30% of them, would be my guess. Bu

> Their healthcare system is now the 2nd worst in the EU WHAT? Now I haven't been to every European country, probably around 30% of them, would be my guess. But literally the country with the best healthcare system of them all, that I've visited a hospital in, have been Sweden. You got any numbers to backup this claim? Spain, Italy and Greece clearly have a worse healthcare system, and those are just three examples I can think of quickly. Surely lots of countries in eastern europe has it worse than Sweden. One source showing the opposite of what you're saying: > Sweden is ranked third by the Commonwealth Fund, with a high proportion of doctors, above-average healthcare spending, and relatively low prescriptions of drugs. From https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/09/which-country-has-worlds-best-healthcare-system-this-is-the-nhs https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/09/which-countr... which is using Commonwealth Fund as it's source.

gbrindisi 7y ago
> Spain, Italy and Greece clearly have a worse healthcare system, and those are just three examples I can think of quickly. I am Italian and I live in Sweden. I am happy my family is in Italy right now.
eng_monkey 7y ago
> Spain, Italy and Greece clearly have a worse healthcare system, and those are just three examples I can think of quickly. Surely lots of countries in eastern europe has it worse than Sweden. Spain has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, usually ranked by the WHO within the top 10 while Sweden's was within top 30.
- capableweb 7y ago
  Can we please start adding sources to our statements? I guess you're going by this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_rank... Both Spain and Sweden seems to be about equal if you average the rankings in that list. So surely if Spain has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, Sweden is pretty equal, then Sweden is nowhere near being the "2nd worst in the EU" when it comes to healthcare.
  - gbrindisi 7y ago
    Data in there is a bit old but... no need to average, just sort by overall performance.
    - capableweb 7y ago
      Since I wasn't the one making the original claim, I could only try my best to find the matching source, this is as close as I could get. Sorry about that.
rurban 7y ago
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-... per capita. Behind is only Germany, Finland, Denmark, Slovenia, Poland. Ok, last time I've looked they were 2nd worst, now 6th. Italy and Spain do have much better systems, by far. World Top 5. Even Greece is much better.
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- capableweb 7y ago
  Thanks for providing the source. 6th sounds more reasonable indeed.

gbrindisi 7y ago

> Spain, Italy and Greece clearly have a worse healthcare system, and those are just three examples I can think of quickly. I am Italian and I live in Sweden. I am happy my family is in Italy right now.

eng_monkey 7y ago

> Spain, Italy and Greece clearly have a worse healthcare system, and those are just three examples I can think of quickly. Surely lots of countries in eastern europe has it worse than Sweden. Spain has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, usually ranked by the WHO within the top 10 while Sweden's was within top 30.

capableweb 7y ago
Can we please start adding sources to our statements? I guess you're going by this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_ranking_of_health_systems_in_2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization_rank... Both Spain and Sweden seems to be about equal if you average the rankings in that list. So surely if Spain has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, Sweden is pretty equal, then Sweden is nowhere near being the "2nd worst in the EU" when it comes to healthcare.
- gbrindisi 7y ago
  Data in there is a bit old but... no need to average, just sort by overall performance.
  - capableweb 7y ago
    Since I wasn't the one making the original claim, I could only try my best to find the matching source, this is as close as I could get. Sorry about that.

rurban 7y ago

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/ https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-... per capita. Behind is only Germany, Finland, Denmark, Slovenia, Poland. Ok, last time I've looked they were 2nd worst, now 6th. Italy and Spain do have much better systems, by far. World Top 5. Even Greece is much better.

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capableweb 7y ago
Thanks for providing the source. 6th sounds more reasonable indeed.