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I hope covid-19 wakes up America the same way because it's time for a change
by plastic_teeth 7y ago
I hope covid-19 wakes up America the same way because it's time for a change
- stx 7y agoSure but don't fall for the false promises socialism makes.
- redis_mlc 7y ago> Sure but don't fall for the false promises socialism makes. What a pithy comment. I guess that ends the debate before it even starts. Except that every other Western nation has socialized medicine, and most of their citizens are happy with it. I hope your grocery cashier doesn't have corona virus this week, because they aren't checking into a US hospital. Don't fall for the false promises capitalism makes. We have tens of millions of Americans who can't afford the ambulance ride to the hospital, let alone the stay there for even one day. And we probably spend as much on administrative and billing overhead for health care as other countries spend on services. Think about that.
- jokowueu 7y agoAmerica's memory of the red scare will eventually disappear but it's gonna be a while.it will eventually catch on and become a more democratic socialist country
- rapeisputinlies 7y agoAmericans have no clue that their issue isn't socialized healthcare, it's fixing your corrupt insurances practices making doctors charge so much. Remove that, and the prices will come down and you'll have best of both worlds instead of this nonsense that Europe has the right idea. Try getting an actual doctors appointment in Sweden and then compare that to the bill you're actually have paid. Don't think it's free, and don't think you're being served what you actually paid for. Other countries do capitalism in healthcare without any of the American issues and it has always worked better than the dream Bernie is selling you and Europeans peddle. Obviously most people don't know better and alternatives, but Europeans get high and mighty out of their nonsense to rub it in Americans even though it's shit, or at least my experience of it. The only country with the right idea and doesn't actually suck in Europe is Switzerland. Germany, Scandinavian countries, the UK is all a joke in comparison.
- thatguyagain 7y agoCan you explain to me as a Swede what false promise I am falling for?
- christkv 7y agoThat Sweden is a socialist country. Socialism is not the same as Social-Democratic which is what most countries in Europe are. Call it capitalism with a social security net.
- blackrock 7y agoThat in America, socialism only exists for the rich and wealthy. (Bailouts, tax breaks, trickle down economics). They get super rich in the good times, and then gets bailed out for their mistakes in the bad times. But for the rest of us, it’s the dog-eat-dog world of crony capitalism. Welcome to America! You’ll love it here. Btw, try not to get sick.
- imafish 7y agoCare to elaborate? I live in a social democratic country and will gladly answer any uncertainties you might have. Edit: Not sure why I am being downvoted. I was genuinely curious.
- bildung 7y agoIf you look at the actual numbers, the northern European countries are actually better at implementing the promises of a democratic capitalist society: Higher median income, higher life expectancy, higher rankings in Happiness indices like the OECD Better Life Index, way higher voting turnout...
- mseidl 7y agoDenmark has the best income mobility and also the lowest income inequality. I you want the American dream, move to Denmark.
- mschuster91 7y agoIf there will be much of America remaining. Over 600k unemployment claims and an infection graph that looks way scarier than Italy where the situation is disastrous, combined with a lack of tests and many people still going to work...
- rurban 7y agoThere was a short 2 weeks opportunity window for that to happen, but it didn't happen. The ruling class made sure there will be no disruption in their (healthcare) system.