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> We have plenty of space (churches, meeting halls, school and university dormitories) to use for temporary hospitals Making these spaces fit the physical need

> We have plenty of space (churches, meeting halls, school and university dormitories) to use for temporary hospitals Making these spaces fit the physical needs of these hospitals (massive power requirements for equipment, hallways and elevators with certain amounts of clearance for transporting patients, extremely well-controlled ventilation systems, sanitizable surfaces everywhere, rooms laid out with central access for doctors and nurses) would take so much time and effort that it would be more money- and time-efficient to build new buildings with the expertise of a group practiced in building new, reasonably high-quality buildings as fast as possible... like, say, the Army. These need to be modern hospitals, not 19th-century sanitariums where patients just get dumped into a bed and left to die or recover on their own. > It would be cheaper to hire immigrant Mexicans to build temporary hospitals. Right, and I'm sure hiring random people to construct temporary buildings as fast as possible would result in something that won't fall in on peoples' heads immediately. > And isn't this possibly a violation of the posse comitatus Act? The Posse Comitatus Act applies to the use of the military as law enforcement, so, no.

narogab 7y ago
crooked-v says "these hospitals (massive power requirements for equipment, hallways and elevators with certain amounts of clearance for transporting patients, extremely well-controlled ventilation systems, sanitizable surfaces everywhere, rooms laid out with central access for doctors and nurses) would take so much time and effort that it would be more money- and time-efficient to build new buildings with the expertise of a group practiced in building new, reasonably high-quality buildings as fast as possible... like, say, the Army." Can you name 3 hospitals that fit your description and were built by the US Army in the last 10 years? I mean "actually built" (not bought, not prefabricated for, etc.) Can you name a single one? I don't think so. I was speaking to a US Army carpenter 5 weeks ago: his Army classes taught him how to build an outhouse: it was his choice whether it had a door or a window - he chose a door because the design/build is simpler. I'd much rather have a Mexican laborer who is familiar with a handsaw and hammer than the average GI in the US Army. You're wrong about what they are trained to build and you're wrong about their skills. The Corps of Engineers are good at earth moving and that's about all. This will be a "learn on-the-job" boondoggle. We don't need what you describe: we need modern buildings that have good roofs and in which the proper equipment can be deployed. Those buildings are already built: gymnasiums, dormitories, meeting halls, stadiums, auditoriums, churches et al all fill the bill and are almost immediately available. crooked-v says "Right, and I'm sure hiring random people to construct temporary buildings as fast as possible would result in something that won't fall in on peoples' heads immediately." Here you _must_ be talking about the US Army - there's little more random than the conscripts today. And they'll do it on the lowest bid. A recipe for success or for failure?

narogab 7y ago

crooked-v says "these hospitals (massive power requirements for equipment, hallways and elevators with certain amounts of clearance for transporting patients, extremely well-controlled ventilation systems, sanitizable surfaces everywhere, rooms laid out with central access for doctors and nurses) would take so much time and effort that it would be more money- and time-efficient to build new buildings with the expertise of a group practiced in building new, reasonably high-quality buildings as fast as possible... like, say, the Army." Can you name 3 hospitals that fit your description and were built by the US Army in the last 10 years? I mean "actually built" (not bought, not prefabricated for, etc.) Can you name a single one? I don't think so. I was speaking to a US Army carpenter 5 weeks ago: his Army classes taught him how to build an outhouse: it was his choice whether it had a door or a window - he chose a door because the design/build is simpler. I'd much rather have a Mexican laborer who is familiar with a handsaw and hammer than the average GI in the US Army. You're wrong about what they are trained to build and you're wrong about their skills. The Corps of Engineers are good at earth moving and that's about all. This will be a "learn on-the-job" boondoggle. We don't need what you describe: we need modern buildings that have good roofs and in which the proper equipment can be deployed. Those buildings are already built: gymnasiums, dormitories, meeting halls, stadiums, auditoriums, churches et al all fill the bill and are almost immediately available. crooked-v says "Right, and I'm sure hiring random people to construct temporary buildings as fast as possible would result in something that won't fall in on peoples' heads immediately." Here you _must_ be talking about the US Army - there's little more random than the conscripts today. And they'll do it on the lowest bid. A recipe for success or for failure?