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Isn't it interesting how, in every country, the only methods being considered or implemented to aid this "crisis" are the ones that are identical to the behavio

by vanniv 7y ago

Isn't it interesting how, in every country, the only methods being considered or implemented to aid this "crisis" are the ones that are identical to the behaviors of authoritarians?

lawlorino 7y ago
What's your suggestion?
- vanniv 7y ago
  Seeing as even locking everyone in their houses doesn't slow down the virus in the slightest (see Italy, where the exponential growth is still full steam ahead, and will clearly only slow at this point once the virus runs out of new people to infect), honestly the UK's original plan is clearly the best one: just let everyone be exposed, it'll be over the fastest and there will be herd immunity to prevent new waves every few weeks for the rest of our lives. Even if the worst-case estimates were true (which they basically can't be at this point), you're looking at 0.25-0.5% of the population dying. Compare that with the effect that the permanent collapse of our free and prosperous societies, converting the world into Venezuela will have. If we don't change course, the living will envy the dead
  - pvaldes 7y ago
    > honestly the UK's original plan is clearly the best one: just let everyone be exposed, But then your father or your grandmother would die as probable outcome, and this plan will not look so clever then. > Converting the world into Venezuela A beautiful country with astonishing nature?
lolc 7y ago
This is not true. Government reactions include educating people about appropriate hygiene. That is not an authoritarian but actually a humanistic tradition. Also note that democracies do include exceptions to guaranteed rights, allowing control of infectuous diseases. As long as these exceptions are not abused, they cannot be said to be authoritarian. Or rather, you'd have to take a very libertarian position to call them authoritarian.

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Isn't it interesting how, in every country, the only methods being considered or implemented to aid this "crisis" are the ones that are identical to the behavio

by vanniv 7y ago

Isn't it interesting how, in every country, the only methods being considered or implemented to aid this "crisis" are the ones that are identical to the behaviors of authoritarians?

lawlorino 7y ago
What's your suggestion?
- vanniv 7y ago
  Seeing as even locking everyone in their houses doesn't slow down the virus in the slightest (see Italy, where the exponential growth is still full steam ahead, and will clearly only slow at this point once the virus runs out of new people to infect), honestly the UK's original plan is clearly the best one: just let everyone be exposed, it'll be over the fastest and there will be herd immunity to prevent new waves every few weeks for the rest of our lives. Even if the worst-case estimates were true (which they basically can't be at this point), you're looking at 0.25-0.5% of the population dying. Compare that with the effect that the permanent collapse of our free and prosperous societies, converting the world into Venezuela will have. If we don't change course, the living will envy the dead
  - pvaldes 7y ago
    > honestly the UK's original plan is clearly the best one: just let everyone be exposed, But then your father or your grandmother would die as probable outcome, and this plan will not look so clever then. > Converting the world into Venezuela A beautiful country with astonishing nature?
lolc 7y ago
This is not true. Government reactions include educating people about appropriate hygiene. That is not an authoritarian but actually a humanistic tradition. Also note that democracies do include exceptions to guaranteed rights, allowing control of infectuous diseases. As long as these exceptions are not abused, they cannot be said to be authoritarian. Or rather, you'd have to take a very libertarian position to call them authoritarian.