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These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they ma
by aquadrop 7y ago
These don't look that bad, but what's describe in a tweet (tracking focus app etc) is much worse, it doesn't seem to be in the privacy policy though (or they masked it?). So where's the information about focused window come from?
- neonate 7y agoYour name, physical address, email address, phone number, employment, credit card, Facebook profile, IP address, MAC address, device ID...is not that bad?
- Turing_Machine 7y agoHow are they supposed to charge you for the service without your credit card billing information? How is it supposed to work at all without your IP address?
- manigandham 7y agoThat data is either required to run or provided to them by you directly.
- neonate 7y agoI haven't provided them with most of that.
- manigandham 7y agoThen they don't have it.
- neonate 7y agoHow do you know that? These statements leave other possibilities open: It covers all Personal Data that you affirmatively provide during your interactions with us, information that we automatically collect when you interact with our Products, and information that we collect about you from third parties Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise interact with our Products.
- manigandham 7y agoIt says "when you use or otherwise interact with our Products." It's not unreasonable. I'm not sure what your claim is here, because you'll find this language in every single online business. You realize Zoom sells enterprise video conferencing right? They have no use for your data otherwise.
- gray_-_wolf 7y agoI think other running programs would fall under > information that we collect about you from third parties
- manigandham 7y agoYour own device is not considered a third-party. That's most likely other email/directory/conference software used by a company to provision Zoom.
- gsich 7y agoMAC address? Unless they have some Layer2 detection shit running they don't need that. And besides, they wouldn't need it on their servers.
- manigandham 7y agoThey have to name every possible thing they can potentially receive. Mac addresses are available as part of networking details if you're using their desktop software. Zoom is enterprise video conferencing that only recently gained attention for average consumers.
- gsich 7y ago>They have to name every possible thing they can potentially receive. Then they are missing a lot.
- manigandham 7y agoLike what?
- gsich 7y agoExample: A program on your PC can open all files your user owns. Then transmit those files (or parts from them).
- manigandham 7y agoThat's not considered PII information for a privacy policy. They also don't store your files.
- gsich 7y agoIt's still private files. So an oversight by Zoom. A picture of you is absolutely a PII. >They also don't store your files. Nobody can prove that. Assume the worst, especially with a company like Zoom. Remember it was about: >They have to name every possible thing they can potentially receive And files certainly fall into that.
- aquadrop 7y agoThese are technical details for normally working with the app. They charge you, so they need you name and credit card. You ask for a support, so they need your ip etc. They list what they may gather, because privacy policy should cover everything, doesn't mean they require all that info at once. I also didn't provide them many of these items.
- deathhand 7y agoThere is a feature for when doing webinars that can track focus: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000538083-Attendee-attention-tracking?mobile_site=true https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000538083-Atten...
- vpzom 7y agoThat's awful.
- riteshpatel 7y agoIt only tracks if the Zoom window has focus, not via facial recognition. How is that bad?
- gsich 7y agoWhat value is that if I have multiple monitors?