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I am very curious about the "technical issue" that is preventing NY from receiving aid in the relief bill.

by jawns 7y ago

trothamel 7y ago
https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/loophole-in-feds-relief-bill-means-new-york-misses-out-on-6b-coronavirus-aid-package.html https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/loophole-in-fed... Apparently, it prevents states from making changes to Medicaid this year, but NY already did.
- WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
  Honestly, if this goes through, New York should just bus people to the closest states that got the coronavirus bill money. This should ensure that people get the proper care and definitely won't cause large amounts of spreading outside of New Tork.
  - bilbo0s 7y ago
    I know I may sound naive asking this, but wouldn't it just be easier to change the Bill? If the bill doesn't help New York, what good is it? It should provide Coronavirus relief for everyone in the nation who needs it. But I'm not a political type, so if I'm thinking about this wrong I'm open to being corrected.
    - WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
      This didn't just happen... someone wanted to screw one of those liberal states in this democrat hoax...
      - bilbo0s 7y ago
        If that be the case, I mean, yeah, just, no words. I'm disappointed I guess. I've always had limited faith and political and economic leaders, but this crisis has really just cratered the little faith I did have. Let's screw the liberal states? Let's make a few bucks on the stock market? Just, wow. Can't even be angry really, I don't deserve any better. In a democracy, you get exactly the leaders you are deserving of. I guess I know how much we rate. Lesson learned.
        Ericson2314 7y ago
        Also keep in mind the proposed $1000 check has a salary minimum in order to qualify, not just salary maximum. I suppose the poor cannot vote you out if they are dead.
        bilbo0s 7y ago
        Wow. Didn't know that either. Just, yeah. To not only do all the stuff that our politicians, of every political stripe, are doing, but then to screw over the poor at a time like this as well? I think I'm done here for the day. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know anything more about what the politicians are doing.
        WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
        Yeah, $75,000 maximum, $18,000 minimum... If you make $75,000 in New York, you're probably homeless... but in the red states that's fuck you money.
        briandear 7y ago
        If you aren’t making money before the disaster, why should you get a check to compensate for a salary you aren’t losing?
        WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
        Because the kind of people who are in that bracket will spend it...
    - lonelappde 7y ago
      New York votes for Democrats. Making them suffer and look bad is part of Trump's campaign.
blackguardx 7y ago
Cuomo addressed this in the press conference. I believe it relates to Medicaid. New York modified some Medicaid rules in January and the relief bill won't grant money to states with modified Medicaid rules. He didn't get into specifics, but said that the bill needed to be updated.
danielfoster 7y ago
I am as well, but overall I’m very frustrated by the lack of coordination and leadership overall. This combined with de Blasio’s proven inability to lead is making the situation much worse than it needs to be.
- ntsplnkv2 7y ago
  This is a pandemic. Across country and state lines. Any response that is not federal is going to struggle. The buck stops solely at the white house and congress for failing to see the warning signs and properly respond.
  - pmorici 7y ago
    I think they saw the warning signs. [0] [0] https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/03/burr-unloaded-stocks-before-coronavirus/ https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/03/burr-unloaded-stock...
  - m0zg 7y ago
    Cuomo OTOH has been quite effective at working with the administration to ramp up testing to the highest throughput in the nation, as well as enacting other measures, and getting FEMA involved, while DeBlasio's response was pretty much only to point out that "orange man bad", and dragging his staff around with him to infected areas. As of 2 days ago, he went to the _gym_. If you listen to WH pressers, you will see that federal government wants the governors to do what they can to procure stuff and enact measures for their states, and step in when the governors feel their response will be inadequate. Which is what we're observing in CA and NY as the governors of those states chose to put politics aside for the time being and actually engage. The reason for delegating frontline response to the states is that if the federal government steps in to buy medical supplies for example (which BTW it still does from time to time - they ordered $500M worth of N95 masks yesterday), such a purchase would first soak up available capacity, and then it'd have to be disbursed to the states, instead of going to them directly, adding delay and confusion. FWIW, I have not seen this level of coordinated response to _anything_ and I've been in the US for 20 years now. I did not know some of the things that are being done are even possible. FEMA and Army Corps of Engineers started to step in massively over the past week. Companies are starting to make ventilators. Drugs and testing equipment are approved for use in weeks instead of years. The list goes on.

I am very curious about the "technical issue" that is preventing NY from receiving aid in the relief bill.

by jawns 7y ago

I am very curious about the "technical issue" that is preventing NY from receiving aid in the relief bill.

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/loophole-in-feds-relief-bill-means-new-york-misses-out-on-6b-coronavirus-aid-package.html https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/loophole-in-fed... Apparently, it prevents states from making changes to Medicaid this year, but NY already did.

WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
Honestly, if this goes through, New York should just bus people to the closest states that got the coronavirus bill money. This should ensure that people get the proper care and definitely won't cause large amounts of spreading outside of New Tork.
- bilbo0s 7y ago
  I know I may sound naive asking this, but wouldn't it just be easier to change the Bill? If the bill doesn't help New York, what good is it? It should provide Coronavirus relief for everyone in the nation who needs it. But I'm not a political type, so if I'm thinking about this wrong I'm open to being corrected.
  - WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
    This didn't just happen... someone wanted to screw one of those liberal states in this democrat hoax...
    - bilbo0s 7y ago
      If that be the case, I mean, yeah, just, no words. I'm disappointed I guess. I've always had limited faith and political and economic leaders, but this crisis has really just cratered the little faith I did have. Let's screw the liberal states? Let's make a few bucks on the stock market? Just, wow. Can't even be angry really, I don't deserve any better. In a democracy, you get exactly the leaders you are deserving of. I guess I know how much we rate. Lesson learned.
      - Ericson2314 7y ago
        Also keep in mind the proposed $1000 check has a salary minimum in order to qualify, not just salary maximum. I suppose the poor cannot vote you out if they are dead.
        bilbo0s 7y ago
        Wow. Didn't know that either. Just, yeah. To not only do all the stuff that our politicians, of every political stripe, are doing, but then to screw over the poor at a time like this as well? I think I'm done here for the day. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know anything more about what the politicians are doing.
        WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
        Yeah, $75,000 maximum, $18,000 minimum... If you make $75,000 in New York, you're probably homeless... but in the red states that's fuck you money.
        briandear 7y ago
        If you aren’t making money before the disaster, why should you get a check to compensate for a salary you aren’t losing?
        WrtCdEvrydy 7y ago
        Because the kind of people who are in that bracket will spend it...
  - lonelappde 7y ago
    New York votes for Democrats. Making them suffer and look bad is part of Trump's campaign.

blackguardx 7y ago

Cuomo addressed this in the press conference. I believe it relates to Medicaid. New York modified some Medicaid rules in January and the relief bill won't grant money to states with modified Medicaid rules. He didn't get into specifics, but said that the bill needed to be updated.

danielfoster 7y ago

I am as well, but overall I’m very frustrated by the lack of coordination and leadership overall. This combined with de Blasio’s proven inability to lead is making the situation much worse than it needs to be.

ntsplnkv2 7y ago
This is a pandemic. Across country and state lines. Any response that is not federal is going to struggle. The buck stops solely at the white house and congress for failing to see the warning signs and properly respond.
- pmorici 7y ago
  I think they saw the warning signs. [0] [0] https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/03/burr-unloaded-stocks-before-coronavirus/ https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/03/burr-unloaded-stock...
- m0zg 7y ago
  Cuomo OTOH has been quite effective at working with the administration to ramp up testing to the highest throughput in the nation, as well as enacting other measures, and getting FEMA involved, while DeBlasio's response was pretty much only to point out that "orange man bad", and dragging his staff around with him to infected areas. As of 2 days ago, he went to the _gym_. If you listen to WH pressers, you will see that federal government wants the governors to do what they can to procure stuff and enact measures for their states, and step in when the governors feel their response will be inadequate. Which is what we're observing in CA and NY as the governors of those states chose to put politics aside for the time being and actually engage. The reason for delegating frontline response to the states is that if the federal government steps in to buy medical supplies for example (which BTW it still does from time to time - they ordered $500M worth of N95 masks yesterday), such a purchase would first soak up available capacity, and then it'd have to be disbursed to the states, instead of going to them directly, adding delay and confusion. FWIW, I have not seen this level of coordinated response to _anything_ and I've been in the US for 20 years now. I did not know some of the things that are being done are even possible. FEMA and Army Corps of Engineers started to step in massively over the past week. Companies are starting to make ventilators. Drugs and testing equipment are approved for use in weeks instead of years. The list goes on.