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Are you being thick on purpose? You are lying, you know you are lying, and you keep lying. 1. And you can't ignore the context and the conclusion of the study

by tagrun 7y ago

Are you being thick on purpose? You are lying, you know you are lying, and you keep lying. 1. And you can't ignore the context and the conclusion of the study and cherry pick half sentences. What a convenient "brevity" that is. They do encourage use of masks in their limited context. Yes they don't say everyone, they say contagious people, and as I explained to 10 times already, in the context of a disease with asymptomatic spread, the requirement translates to everyone. And for the nth time, mask isn't a substitute for hygiene and social distancing (which apparently is your faulty understanding because you keep bringing it up), it is complementary and effective countermeasure. What part of this is so hard to understand? 2. "After symptom onset" is the contagious period for flu. For SARS-CoV-2, it starts before symptom onset. Meaning potentially everyone, again. So no, both studies do encourage the use of masks for everyone. And then there are indisputable, order of magnitude differences in infection rate numbers between countries that use and don't use masks --which you're also conveniently but consistently silent about. Try going to Japan and telling people that masks don't work ---but also tell them that US discouraged its people from using masks and has an infection spread rate of 35% with over 38000 infected people and nearly 400 deaths in a shorter timespan. See the reaction you get. Actually, no, I take it back, please don't ever come to Japan. Please stay wherever you are, we don't want people like you. You are bent on harming yourself and people around you, and I'm done talking to you. The last thing I am going to say to you is: you are a disgrace and a harmful element to your society, to this world, and I am happy that at least my country is giving the right directions, doing the right things and that mine is a society where people like you get the reaction that they deserve.

boomboomsubban 7y ago
>You are lying, you know you are lying, and you keep lying I am not. You are being overly passionate and stating things are obvious facts without sufficient data. Even the prevalence of asymptomatic spreading is unclear right now. >And you can't ignore the context and the conclusion of the study and cherry pick half sentences I didn't ignore it, a studies recommendation is meaningless without the experimental results. I commented on the results. Similarly, you don't need the part I omitted to say... >in the context of a disease with asymptomatic spread, the requirement translates to everyone. This is not how studies work. You can't use this to assume long term use of masks by those without symptoms is beneficial. That kind of use may have unaccounted risks. >And for the nth time, mask isn't a substitute for hygiene and social distancing (which apparently is your faulty understanding because you keep bringing it up), I have no idea what part of my last post you think brought this up, the quotes from the studies? At no point have I tried to claim masks were a substitute for hygiene or social distancing, I don't know what led you to that idea. >What part of this is so hard to understand? The part where you attack something I didn't say is confusing. >--but also tell them that US discourage their people from using masks and has an infection spread rate of 35% with over 30000 infected people and nearly 400 deaths in a shorter timespan. It's a bit hard to talk with someone who accuses me of "cherry picking" data and then makes these random comparisons that ignore most of the world and any other potential factors. >The last thing I am going to say to you is: you are a disgrace and a harmful element to your society, to this world, All for following the recommendations of organizations like the WHO. Have a nice day, I hope you are fortunate enough to stay healthy, and remember to properly dispose of your masks after use.

by tagrun 7y ago

boomboomsubban 7y ago

>You are lying, you know you are lying, and you keep lying I am not. You are being overly passionate and stating things are obvious facts without sufficient data. Even the prevalence of asymptomatic spreading is unclear right now. >And you can't ignore the context and the conclusion of the study and cherry pick half sentences I didn't ignore it, a studies recommendation is meaningless without the experimental results. I commented on the results. Similarly, you don't need the part I omitted to say... >in the context of a disease with asymptomatic spread, the requirement translates to everyone. This is not how studies work. You can't use this to assume long term use of masks by those without symptoms is beneficial. That kind of use may have unaccounted risks. >And for the nth time, mask isn't a substitute for hygiene and social distancing (which apparently is your faulty understanding because you keep bringing it up), I have no idea what part of my last post you think brought this up, the quotes from the studies? At no point have I tried to claim masks were a substitute for hygiene or social distancing, I don't know what led you to that idea. >What part of this is so hard to understand? The part where you attack something I didn't say is confusing. >--but also tell them that US discourage their people from using masks and has an infection spread rate of 35% with over 30000 infected people and nearly 400 deaths in a shorter timespan. It's a bit hard to talk with someone who accuses me of "cherry picking" data and then makes these random comparisons that ignore most of the world and any other potential factors. >The last thing I am going to say to you is: you are a disgrace and a harmful element to your society, to this world, All for following the recommendations of organizations like the WHO. Have a nice day, I hope you are fortunate enough to stay healthy, and remember to properly dispose of your masks after use.