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In Bavaria we have these rules already a few days. They are quite acceptable. It leaves options to go jogging alone, to go out with the kids and have a chat wit
by oaiey 7y ago
In Bavaria we have these rules already a few days. They are quite acceptable. It leaves options to go jogging alone, to go out with the kids and have a chat with the neighbors over the street. 1.5m is IMHO a bit too close, but it seems the recommendation.
However, I live a villagers life. Wuhan is a huge city with much less public space. So I argue, it is not only democratic vs. Non democratic society but also depends on the location dramatically.
- pachico 7y agoIn general, I think it also depends on society maturity (given there are many ways to get to that state). In Spain and Italy, the countries I know best, thousands of citizens are trying to cut corners and bypass any quarantine obligation.
- oaiey 7y agoI would be very careful with the wording maturity in context of society. Italy and Spain have a society which is far more family friendly, elder friendly and outgoing culture than Germany. That is usually much better. Just not now.
- pachico 7y agoBy maturity, in this case, I mean to really understand the thread, act upon it and have the society backing up measures taken, even if they personally affect you. In Mediterranean countries this usually doesn't happen.
- RalfWausE 7y agoI know people who would argue if Bavaria really counts as a western democracy ;-) But i think you are right: The infection risk out in the countryside must be magnitudes smaller than in any major city (so long as mass-events are banned).
- ceejayoz 7y agoIt's quite acceptable for a while. Non-compliance will increase the longer it goes on, I suspect. There's a reason isolation is used as punishment/torture in prisons.
- Bombthecat 7y agoAbsolutely. I suspect that 8 months or so we just accept dead people.
- dathinab 7y agoBelieve me this won't take 8 month. Especially given that in many areas the live of "old" people and "mid/young" people got sadly somewhat decoupled in the recent 30 or so years.
- airstrike 7y agoThe young which require hospitalization have a real chance to die if left untreated. There aren't enough beds to treat everyone if 80% of people get sick.
- Bombthecat 7y agoDownvotes wont change the fact that mass psychology is at play. Not invidual psychology, like people in jail. Those are two different things! Most people think they are the same, but they are not. Nonetheless,thats why i wrote, soon or later we accept the dead people as part of doing "business"
- airstrike 7y agoYou're way off base. We're not going to "accept" the risk of dying tomorrow any more than we do today. This isn't about old people dying. It's about 40-80% getting infected, 17-20% needing hospitalization and there not being enough beds. Simple as that.
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