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> From the casual observer point of view, it appears only some Asian governments have been able to competently handle this crisis. Anything I’ve read indicates

> From the casual observer point of view, it appears only some Asian governments have been able to competently handle this crisis. Anything I’ve read indicates China screwed up at almost every step only to have to do what the rest of the world is being forced to do now. Axios did a good timeline that leads me to believe the Chinese aren’t that special and if anything their government acted in such a way that doomed the rest of the world. https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coro...

acqq 7y ago
"Jan. 21: The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms the first coronavirus case in the United States." Which country managed to get it under control it its own house since that date?
tdfx 7y ago
Sure, the provincial government screwed up pretty badly, but when the central government locked everything down their response was unprecedented and remarkably thorough. It's important to separate the two different responses. And it's the second, central government response that seems to have suppressed the outbreak.
- gnusty_gnurc 7y ago
  You wonder though how we're supposed to trust anything that's reported by the CCP when they're engaging in propaganda blaming the US and Italy for the virus. As well as when there's a documented history of shooting the messenger, human rights violations, free speech violations, etc. Maybe they are effective - it remains to be seen in an internationally vetted way. And they also had an opportunity to disseminate globally that they had doctors reporting issues, but instead they maintained until at least the middle of January (this started in November) that human-to-human transmission wasn't documented. Nothing they say inspires confidence given their history and current actions, especially when it's ostensibly at odds with the experiences of almost the entire rest of the world with higher living standards and more uniformly modern systems. Increasingly as time goes on, I have a harder time believing this is anything other than another shooting the messenger, Chernobyl-style event from an oppressive, information-deprived regime.

acqq 7y ago

"Jan. 21: The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirms the first coronavirus case in the United States." Which country managed to get it under control it its own house since that date?

tdfx 7y ago

Sure, the provincial government screwed up pretty badly, but when the central government locked everything down their response was unprecedented and remarkably thorough. It's important to separate the two different responses. And it's the second, central government response that seems to have suppressed the outbreak.

gnusty_gnurc 7y ago
You wonder though how we're supposed to trust anything that's reported by the CCP when they're engaging in propaganda blaming the US and Italy for the virus. As well as when there's a documented history of shooting the messenger, human rights violations, free speech violations, etc. Maybe they are effective - it remains to be seen in an internationally vetted way. And they also had an opportunity to disseminate globally that they had doctors reporting issues, but instead they maintained until at least the middle of January (this started in November) that human-to-human transmission wasn't documented. Nothing they say inspires confidence given their history and current actions, especially when it's ostensibly at odds with the experiences of almost the entire rest of the world with higher living standards and more uniformly modern systems. Increasingly as time goes on, I have a harder time believing this is anything other than another shooting the messenger, Chernobyl-style event from an oppressive, information-deprived regime.