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I looooove Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. There was a five-year period or so where it was about the only game I played. (Things got worse when I discovered that ther

I looooove Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. There was a five-year period or so where it was about the only game I played. (Things got worse when I discovered that there are two-week tournaments that are essentially a war on productivity... How many times and in how many different ways can you beat the game in a two-week period? Your team is depending on you! Down with sleep!) Their design philosophy is fantastic: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.rst#n-philosophy-pas-de-faq https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/master/crawl-ref/docs/cr... The core concept is that all choices should be /meaningful/. 'No-brainers' are ruthlessly pruned away, or given interesting side effects that could be situationally useful or terrible. And also, avoid anything that looks like grinding. These people speak my language...

fiddlerwoaroof 7y ago
I like DCSS, but I’ve found the recent releases are making it less fun by removing mechanics I liked. E.g. removing inventory weight limits, food types and nerfing abilities that modify the dungeon.
- Igelau 7y ago
  When they got rid of chokos they got rid of me.
- pmarreck 7y ago
  Inventory weight limits add grind due to having to manually shuttle items around instead Also there is just nothing fun about inventory management IMHO. In Skyrim I always did a player.modav carryweight 10000 and things became SO much more fun.
  - fiddlerwoaroof 7y ago
    I always enjoyed optimizing my items for the next branch in DCSS, plus worrying about dropping dangerous weapons, lest an enemy pick it up and use it on me. (Which has also been removed)
    - pmarreck 7y ago
      ah crap that sounds like fun actually because that would in fact happen. The game should have options that let you toggle things like that
mherdeg 7y ago
A surprising amount of my enjoyment of DCSS comes from seeing it as a dialogue with NetHack -- for the first few months I played, I kept thinking 'ohh, yes, that mechanic is obviously a rejection of the baroque [intrinsics|identification metagame|whatever else] mechanic'.
pmarreck 7y ago
Is there an iOS version I can play on the go, or a cloud-based terminal version a la https://alt.org/nethack/ https://alt.org/nethack/ for nethack?

fiddlerwoaroof 7y ago

I like DCSS, but I’ve found the recent releases are making it less fun by removing mechanics I liked. E.g. removing inventory weight limits, food types and nerfing abilities that modify the dungeon.

Igelau 7y ago
When they got rid of chokos they got rid of me.
pmarreck 7y ago
Inventory weight limits add grind due to having to manually shuttle items around instead Also there is just nothing fun about inventory management IMHO. In Skyrim I always did a player.modav carryweight 10000 and things became SO much more fun.
- fiddlerwoaroof 7y ago
  I always enjoyed optimizing my items for the next branch in DCSS, plus worrying about dropping dangerous weapons, lest an enemy pick it up and use it on me. (Which has also been removed)
  - pmarreck 7y ago
    ah crap that sounds like fun actually because that would in fact happen. The game should have options that let you toggle things like that

mherdeg 7y ago

A surprising amount of my enjoyment of DCSS comes from seeing it as a dialogue with NetHack -- for the first few months I played, I kept thinking 'ohh, yes, that mechanic is obviously a rejection of the baroque [intrinsics|identification metagame|whatever else] mechanic'.

pmarreck 7y ago

Is there an iOS version I can play on the go, or a cloud-based terminal version a la https://alt.org/nethack/ https://alt.org/nethack/ for nethack?