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OTOH, quite a few people in their 30s survived only after two weeks on a ventilator. That involves “fixating the patient, who will otherwise try to pull out the

OTOH, quite a few people in their 30s survived only after two weeks on a ventilator. That involves “fixating the patient, who will otherwise try to pull out the tube because he believes it is suffocating him”. No fun.

onetimemanytime 7y ago
>>OTOH, quite a few people in their 30s survived only after two weeks on a ventilator. I wonder if anyone needing one will get a ventilator when times comes? Especially since you need it for weeks
- exhilaration 7y ago
  There's ongoing planning for how to distribute limited resources if hospitals are overwhelmed: Fearing a critical shortage of lifesaving resources as the coronavirus spreads, Washington State is engaged in grim discussions to determine which dying patients would get priority. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/us/coronavirus-in-seattle-washington-state.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/us/coronavirus-in-seattle...
  - jrs235 7y ago
    Article is paywalled for me. Will they take a ventilator off and away from say an 80 year old and give it to a 30 year old? In other words will they take ventilators away or will they leave them until a person recovers or dies?
    - exhilaration 7y ago
      That's a very good question. The article doesn't mention that scenario.
      - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
        They won't start them on people younger than 60 in Italy. They will be making these decisions in Washington state, which they have been discussing and putting out in the public so we know ahead of time. All these people wanting to argue that most people dying are old are leading to one conclusion, I'll be okay, what's the big deal, I want to go out to a bar, it won't kill me, probably. Yeah, so, you want to kill grandma and grandpa? One day you will be that old. Most people don't want people who are "old", that indefinite thing older than you, to die. But for those that don't give a shit, think practically, that the people filling up the hospital for when you get sick, or if you break your arm or get the regular flu, they will prevent you from being able to see a doctor.

onetimemanytime 7y ago

>>OTOH, quite a few people in their 30s survived only after two weeks on a ventilator. I wonder if anyone needing one will get a ventilator when times comes? Especially since you need it for weeks

exhilaration 7y ago
There's ongoing planning for how to distribute limited resources if hospitals are overwhelmed: Fearing a critical shortage of lifesaving resources as the coronavirus spreads, Washington State is engaged in grim discussions to determine which dying patients would get priority. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/us/coronavirus-in-seattle-washington-state.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/us/coronavirus-in-seattle...
- jrs235 7y ago
  Article is paywalled for me. Will they take a ventilator off and away from say an 80 year old and give it to a 30 year old? In other words will they take ventilators away or will they leave them until a person recovers or dies?
  - exhilaration 7y ago
    That's a very good question. The article doesn't mention that scenario.
    - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
      They won't start them on people younger than 60 in Italy. They will be making these decisions in Washington state, which they have been discussing and putting out in the public so we know ahead of time. All these people wanting to argue that most people dying are old are leading to one conclusion, I'll be okay, what's the big deal, I want to go out to a bar, it won't kill me, probably. Yeah, so, you want to kill grandma and grandpa? One day you will be that old. Most people don't want people who are "old", that indefinite thing older than you, to die. But for those that don't give a shit, think practically, that the people filling up the hospital for when you get sick, or if you break your arm or get the regular flu, they will prevent you from being able to see a doctor.