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Title IX has always had these problems and has had these abuses since inception. Numerous lawsuits have been brought about this kind of thing and even won. Wh

Title IX has always had these problems and has had these abuses since inception. Numerous lawsuits have been brought about this kind of thing and even won. Why is this case different? No, really, I am asking. Why is the New York Times writing about it now? Why for these people?

thaumasiotes 7y ago
One difference from the usual is that the accused parties in this case are women.
- miscPerson 7y ago
  Bingo! Title IX isn’t supposed to convict women or provide rights to downtrodden men. It must be a miscarriage of justice when men benefit from civil rights!
MrStonedOne 7y ago
Women were victimized by a system that was designed to help women. In this case it's even more juicy because its gay women. Even better because its a gay man as the perpetrator. This gets reads, this gets people's attention, and its less common then the typical case of abuse, making it interesting. It helps that they have more concrete proof the accusations were a lie, so the news paper doesn't have to worry about being on the wrong side of a sensitive topic. but don't forget about the empathy gap. Not in the news paper, but in society at large. The idea of an innocent man getting caught up in the system is uncomfortable, but people push that thought to the back of their mind and subconsciously rationalise it away as a necessary evil to protect women (and some men) because they can't think of a way to protect the falsely accused that doesn't make it easier to get away with abusing women. In this view the potentially abused women gets more empathy over the potentially innocent man.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  > In this case it's even more juicy because its gay women. I think in this kind of story, where the accused are women, they're pretty much always going to be gay women. Not for reasons of any particular animus, but because that means the putative victims are female, which people will take a lot more seriously.
AmericanChopper 7y ago
Title IX is an entirely Kafkaesque system that has ruined the lives of countless innocent people. This is quite widely accepted most of the time, when it’s simply being used to persecute innocent men, however it amounts to a serious controversy when its turned against a well respected lesbian academic. It’s just ordinary identity politics at work.
high_derivative 7y ago
Rather ironic considering the NYT again and again gave platform to people arguing for Title IX and complaining about De Vos trying to reign it in. Lives ruined. But a woman being falsely accused? That's international-news worthy.
smohare 7y ago
The author is one of the victims. RTFA.
golemiprague 7y ago
Because they are lesbian women so they are the "good ones", it is simple as that. The NY Times is not different to Fox or CNN or any other media outlet in the US. They all have some agenda which they try to push, that's all.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> Why is the New York Times writing about it now? For "political/cultural" topics, I generally ask does the article align with the company's/editorial staff's biases. For important geopolitical topics, I generally ask does the article align with the company's masters' biases. What a company chooses to cover or not cover and how a company chooses to cover a story becomes rather obvious. After a while, you can pretty much tell whether a story will be cover by a company and how they are going to spin it. > Numerous lawsuits have been brought about this kind of thing and even won. Why is this case different? It's hard to say. If the situation isn't special since we had numerous lawsuits like this before, then I guess we can ask what else is special? Maybe we can run down the "who,what,when,where,why". Lets start with who. Is there anything special there?

thaumasiotes 7y ago

One difference from the usual is that the accused parties in this case are women.

miscPerson 7y ago
Bingo! Title IX isn’t supposed to convict women or provide rights to downtrodden men. It must be a miscarriage of justice when men benefit from civil rights!

MrStonedOne 7y ago

Women were victimized by a system that was designed to help women. In this case it's even more juicy because its gay women. Even better because its a gay man as the perpetrator. This gets reads, this gets people's attention, and its less common then the typical case of abuse, making it interesting. It helps that they have more concrete proof the accusations were a lie, so the news paper doesn't have to worry about being on the wrong side of a sensitive topic. but don't forget about the empathy gap. Not in the news paper, but in society at large. The idea of an innocent man getting caught up in the system is uncomfortable, but people push that thought to the back of their mind and subconsciously rationalise it away as a necessary evil to protect women (and some men) because they can't think of a way to protect the falsely accused that doesn't make it easier to get away with abusing women. In this view the potentially abused women gets more empathy over the potentially innocent man.

thaumasiotes 7y ago
> In this case it's even more juicy because its gay women. I think in this kind of story, where the accused are women, they're pretty much always going to be gay women. Not for reasons of any particular animus, but because that means the putative victims are female, which people will take a lot more seriously.

AmericanChopper 7y ago

Title IX is an entirely Kafkaesque system that has ruined the lives of countless innocent people. This is quite widely accepted most of the time, when it’s simply being used to persecute innocent men, however it amounts to a serious controversy when its turned against a well respected lesbian academic. It’s just ordinary identity politics at work.

high_derivative 7y ago

Rather ironic considering the NYT again and again gave platform to people arguing for Title IX and complaining about De Vos trying to reign it in. Lives ruined. But a woman being falsely accused? That's international-news worthy.

smohare 7y ago

The author is one of the victims. RTFA.

golemiprague 7y ago

Because they are lesbian women so they are the "good ones", it is simple as that. The NY Times is not different to Fox or CNN or any other media outlet in the US. They all have some agenda which they try to push, that's all.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> Why is the New York Times writing about it now? For "political/cultural" topics, I generally ask does the article align with the company's/editorial staff's biases. For important geopolitical topics, I generally ask does the article align with the company's masters' biases. What a company chooses to cover or not cover and how a company chooses to cover a story becomes rather obvious. After a while, you can pretty much tell whether a story will be cover by a company and how they are going to spin it. > Numerous lawsuits have been brought about this kind of thing and even won. Why is this case different? It's hard to say. If the situation isn't special since we had numerous lawsuits like this before, then I guess we can ask what else is special? Maybe we can run down the "who,what,when,where,why". Lets start with who. Is there anything special there?