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What would the Government do? Force people to go back to work at gunpoint? I'd love to see them try.

xxpor 7y ago
The state of education in this country about the history of the labor movement is seriously depressing. I'm sure that's intentional though.
- kortilla 7y ago
  No, it’s covered. You might just be shocked to learn that children don’t really care about collective bargaining history anymore than the dates of important battles in WW2.
  - xxpor 7y ago
    We covered the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, the muckrakers, and Roosevelt's war against trusts, but I don't ever recall hearing the name Eugene Debs, or say the Haymarket massacre.
    - tomcatfish 7y ago
      > but I don't ever recall hearing the name Eugene Debs, or say the Haymarket massacre. These are both covered in the popular APUSH American History courses.
      - xxpor 7y ago
        I'd believe that. How many people end up taking APUSH though?
grogenaut 7y ago
With the coal strikes they threatened to draft every coal miner and nationalize the mines. That would likely be the same methodology used now. But I think we're a bunch of disassociated internet people talking about how a bunch of people who just got double time should be unhappy.
- Teever 7y ago
  Double time doesn't make their risk of watching a potentially deadly disease less likely, does it?
- srtjstjsj 7y ago
  If Amazon.com gets nationalized, I'll volunteer for service. Jeff Bezos doesn't need slave labor.
ip26 7y ago
There was a time they did just that. Probably what your parent is referencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
tanilama 7y ago
Italy had just declared any doctors/nurses on sick leave right now while not being sick, violate the laws and will be prosecuted. Under emergency there isn't really rights for individual, not much.
TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago
If DHS had used 6 million rounds a months since 2013, they’d still have enough for another 13 years of Iraq-invasion level war. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billi...
ineedasername 7y ago
There is a great deal of history where, yes, physical force & violence was used to break strikes. [0] <-- Just one example. [1] <-- another. [2][3] <-- more. The union labor movement is not at its most popular right now either. There'd be a lot more people rooting for the government right now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike#The_strike's_conclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike#The_strike's_... [1] https://www.britannica.com/event/Pullman-Strike https://www.britannica.com/event/Pullman-Strike [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair

The state of education in this country about the history of the labor movement is seriously depressing. I'm sure that's intentional though.

kortilla 7y ago
No, it’s covered. You might just be shocked to learn that children don’t really care about collective bargaining history anymore than the dates of important battles in WW2.
- xxpor 7y ago
  We covered the Triangle Shirtwaist fire, the muckrakers, and Roosevelt's war against trusts, but I don't ever recall hearing the name Eugene Debs, or say the Haymarket massacre.
  - tomcatfish 7y ago
    > but I don't ever recall hearing the name Eugene Debs, or say the Haymarket massacre. These are both covered in the popular APUSH American History courses.
    - xxpor 7y ago
      I'd believe that. How many people end up taking APUSH though?

grogenaut 7y ago

With the coal strikes they threatened to draft every coal miner and nationalize the mines. That would likely be the same methodology used now. But I think we're a bunch of disassociated internet people talking about how a bunch of people who just got double time should be unhappy.

Teever 7y ago
Double time doesn't make their risk of watching a potentially deadly disease less likely, does it?
srtjstjsj 7y ago
If Amazon.com gets nationalized, I'll volunteer for service. Jeff Bezos doesn't need slave labor.

ip26 7y ago

There was a time they did just that. Probably what your parent is referencing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

tanilama 7y ago

Italy had just declared any doctors/nurses on sick leave right now while not being sick, violate the laws and will be prosecuted. Under emergency there isn't really rights for individual, not much.

TheSpiceIsLife 7y ago

If DHS had used 6 million rounds a months since 2013, they’d still have enough for another 13 years of Iraq-invasion level war. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billion-rounds-of-ammo-for-homeland-security-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2013/03/11/1-6-billi...

ineedasername 7y ago

There is a great deal of history where, yes, physical force & violence was used to break strikes. [0] <-- Just one example. [1] <-- another. [2][3] <-- more. The union labor movement is not at its most popular right now either. There'd be a lot more people rooting for the government right now. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike#The_strike's_conclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_strike#The_strike's_... [1] https://www.britannica.com/event/Pullman-Strike https://www.britannica.com/event/Pullman-Strike [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Railroad_Strike_of_1877 [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair