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See Table 1 in the original study: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronaviru

by etrk 7y ago

See Table 1 in the original study: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-C... Ipertensione arteriosa (high blood pressure) 76.1% Diabete mellito (diabetes) 35.5% Cardiopatia ischemica (heart disease) 33% Fibrillazione atriale (atrial fibrillation) 24.5% Cancro attivo negli ultimi 5 anni (cancer in past 5 years) 20.3% Insufficienza renale cronica (renal failure) 18% BPCO (COPD) 13.2% Ictus (stroke) 9.6% Demenza (dementia) 6.8% Epatopatia cronica (chronic liver disease) 3.1% Note that the most of the people in this study were 70+ years old, and I have no idea what the typical prevalence of these diseases is among 70+ year old Italians.

DoofusOfDeath 7y ago
I haven't been able to figure out from the public statements regarding blood pressure: does the high mortality correspond to treated BP, untreated BP, or both?
- joeyh 7y ago
  I have not seen any studies that broke it down. The studies out of China only had patients self-report other conditions.
laichzeit0 7y ago
High blood pressure, or related to the medication that people with high blood pressure take (ACE inhibitors)?
chewz 7y ago
> 70% of U.S. adults aged 65 years and older have high blood pressure (BP), and the prevalence increases with age. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5639920/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5639920/
RHSeeger 7y ago
> Diabete mellito (diabetes) 35.5% I'd be curious to know if their diabetes was well controlled prior to contracting the corona virus or if it was out of control and already a cause of risk. Did the corona virus _cause_ the problem, or just make it worse?
- asterisk_ 7y ago
  > Il numero medio di patologie osservate in questa popolazione è di 2.7 (mediana 2, Deviazione Standard 1.6) It seems the above poses another question; is diabetes just confounding other underlying condition(s)? Further, if most of the patients suffered from type 2 diabetes, it would likely correlate with older age in which case higher fatality rates are to be expected. I was unable to find this info publicly available, but diabetes being one of the "2+ underlying conditions" seems probable.
- corpMaverick 7y ago
  There has been some speculation that it may not be the desease itself but the treatment that was the cause of increased risk.
bryanrasmussen 7y ago
Well some of those are of course found among primarily old people, but as I understand it there are plenty of young people who are in critical condition in Italy as well.
bluemax 7y ago
As a type 1 diabetic I'm always a bit disappointed when diabetes is mentioned in an article without specifying the sub type. It makes me wonder if they only encountered type 2 diabetics, or other types as well.

by etrk 7y ago

DoofusOfDeath 7y ago

I haven't been able to figure out from the public statements regarding blood pressure: does the high mortality correspond to treated BP, untreated BP, or both?

joeyh 7y ago
I have not seen any studies that broke it down. The studies out of China only had patients self-report other conditions.

laichzeit0 7y ago

High blood pressure, or related to the medication that people with high blood pressure take (ACE inhibitors)?

chewz 7y ago

> 70% of U.S. adults aged 65 years and older have high blood pressure (BP), and the prevalence increases with age. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5639920/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5639920/

RHSeeger 7y ago

> Diabete mellito (diabetes) 35.5% I'd be curious to know if their diabetes was well controlled prior to contracting the corona virus or if it was out of control and already a cause of risk. Did the corona virus _cause_ the problem, or just make it worse?

asterisk_ 7y ago
> Il numero medio di patologie osservate in questa popolazione è di 2.7 (mediana 2, Deviazione Standard 1.6) It seems the above poses another question; is diabetes just confounding other underlying condition(s)? Further, if most of the patients suffered from type 2 diabetes, it would likely correlate with older age in which case higher fatality rates are to be expected. I was unable to find this info publicly available, but diabetes being one of the "2+ underlying conditions" seems probable.
corpMaverick 7y ago
There has been some speculation that it may not be the desease itself but the treatment that was the cause of increased risk.

bryanrasmussen 7y ago

Well some of those are of course found among primarily old people, but as I understand it there are plenty of young people who are in critical condition in Italy as well.

bluemax 7y ago

As a type 1 diabetic I'm always a bit disappointed when diabetes is mentioned in an article without specifying the sub type. It makes me wonder if they only encountered type 2 diabetics, or other types as well.