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If it could just run Mac OS with touch screen clicks that would be sa-weet. Love the form factor

by thebiglebrewski 7y ago

scarface74 7y ago
A desktop OS with a touch screen worked so well with Windows....
- wayneftw 7y ago
  Actually, it worked out very well for Windows 10. It's the most popular desktop operating system on the market with a global market share of about 40%. Every top PC manufacturer has a line of touch models and they've been continuing to make new models every year for the past 7 years, so they must be selling... I think a lot of people just repeat whatever Apple/Steve Jobs said, but if you look - Apple has a long history of poo-pooing things right up until they do it themselves. It's part of their corporate playbook. They switched to Intel CPUs after talking shit about them for decades. They switched to multi-touch after sticking to the single mouse button for so long, citing how more than one button was too complicated for people... That's what's happening now. Apple is trying to turn their iPad into a Surface. Of course the people who are wanting more freedom than iOS allows are going to be waiting a long time as Apple slowly and carefully adds general computing capabilities (as they have been doing), but in a way that stifles any sort of competition where they don't want it.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    I have two Dell 2-1s I use regularly running Windows 10. My personal laptop and my work laptop, and I have a Dell. All the things wrong with Windows 10 as touch OS. - x86 is very power inefficient. Every benchmark shows that iPad Pros out perform most x86 laptops. iPads get 10+ hours battery life compared to 3-4 hours from both Dell’s when they were brand new. - Instant On/Standby time. My first gen iPad was still getting standby times of 3 weeks while still getting notifications 5 years in. Of course my 2017 $469 iPad with cellular will go about a month on standby. My laptops? They take forever to wake from sleep and standby time is not nearly as good. - Windows 10 is nowhere near as memory or CPU efficient as iPadOS. Can you imagine running Windows with 3GB RAM? The lowend surfaces had 4GB of RAM and ran horribly. - Most Windows apps and parts of the OS itself has still not been rewritten to be touch friendly. Microsoft Office is even a better experience on iPads than Windows using a touch screen. - Of course Windows on ARM has been a disaster. - the 16x9 display of my laptop is horrible in portrait and landscape trying to use the onscreen keyboard. As far as Jobs “talking shit about x86”, Next was already in the process of porting Next to x86 before Apple acquired them. Jobs admitted that they always had a port of OS X on x86. Also, the Mac supported multiple mouse buttons since MacOS 8.

If it could just run Mac OS with touch screen clicks that would be sa-weet. Love the form factor

scarface74 7y ago

A desktop OS with a touch screen worked so well with Windows....

wayneftw 7y ago
Actually, it worked out very well for Windows 10. It's the most popular desktop operating system on the market with a global market share of about 40%. Every top PC manufacturer has a line of touch models and they've been continuing to make new models every year for the past 7 years, so they must be selling... I think a lot of people just repeat whatever Apple/Steve Jobs said, but if you look - Apple has a long history of poo-pooing things right up until they do it themselves. It's part of their corporate playbook. They switched to Intel CPUs after talking shit about them for decades. They switched to multi-touch after sticking to the single mouse button for so long, citing how more than one button was too complicated for people... That's what's happening now. Apple is trying to turn their iPad into a Surface. Of course the people who are wanting more freedom than iOS allows are going to be waiting a long time as Apple slowly and carefully adds general computing capabilities (as they have been doing), but in a way that stifles any sort of competition where they don't want it.
- scarface74 7y ago
  I have two Dell 2-1s I use regularly running Windows 10. My personal laptop and my work laptop, and I have a Dell. All the things wrong with Windows 10 as touch OS. - x86 is very power inefficient. Every benchmark shows that iPad Pros out perform most x86 laptops. iPads get 10+ hours battery life compared to 3-4 hours from both Dell’s when they were brand new. - Instant On/Standby time. My first gen iPad was still getting standby times of 3 weeks while still getting notifications 5 years in. Of course my 2017 $469 iPad with cellular will go about a month on standby. My laptops? They take forever to wake from sleep and standby time is not nearly as good. - Windows 10 is nowhere near as memory or CPU efficient as iPadOS. Can you imagine running Windows with 3GB RAM? The lowend surfaces had 4GB of RAM and ran horribly. - Most Windows apps and parts of the OS itself has still not been rewritten to be touch friendly. Microsoft Office is even a better experience on iPads than Windows using a touch screen. - Of course Windows on ARM has been a disaster. - the 16x9 display of my laptop is horrible in portrait and landscape trying to use the onscreen keyboard. As far as Jobs “talking shit about x86”, Next was already in the process of porting Next to x86 before Apple acquired them. Jobs admitted that they always had a port of OS X on x86. Also, the Mac supported multiple mouse buttons since MacOS 8.