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Uuh no thanks. How about we trust employees and simply check the result of their work? Who cares if someone has spent N hours sitting in front of the screen, sh

Uuh no thanks. How about we trust employees and simply check the result of their work? Who cares if someone has spent N hours sitting in front of the screen, show me the results.

steve_adams_86 7y ago
I get that, and I feel the same, but a lot of jobs require time entries with work descriptions. I have had several of them. Finding ways to minimize that burden on your workday is really nice. I hate time tracking. No comment on this product specifically, I'd have to try it. But a lot of us can't just say no thanks to time tracking. I should also add some people benefit personally from making this effort. I have ADHD and though I hate time tracking, the information it gives me is invaluable. I have a terrible sense of time (honestly almost none) and being notified of intervals and knowing what I did is an excellent aid for keeping on track and improving self awareness.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  I thought I hated time tracking. Now I get to put in one time entry for my whole shift, but I have to make reports constantly on what I'm doing which is a lot more effort than just entering in chronological order what I did. Simple time tracking helps keep you honest and tells you things you weren't aware of, in my experience.
itake 7y ago
As a freelancer, you should track what you worked on when and for how long. If the client comes back and says "you billed me for 4 hours yesterday, what did you do?" During that time you might not have something presentable yet, but you need to track what you did (which might be 'write unit tests for {featureName}" With that said, I'd hate getting interrupted every N minutes. Personally, at the end of a work session, I stop my clock (I bill by the hour) and note any PRs, meetings, or glue-work I did during the work session.
perl4ever 7y ago
I'm used to keeping track of every 15 minute segment of my day, at former jobs. But currently, I'm not expected to do that while working from home, but at the same time my manager wants an update every day on what I've been doing. I'd rather be monitored constantly or make a chronological log than have to engage in basically a marketing exercise every day. I did have a salaried position once where we absolutely had to punch a time clock (and quite a few people grumbled because of the class implication) but there was almost no monitoring on a daily basis. Except you weren't supposed to fall asleep.
- Hamuko 7y ago
  >but at the same time my manager wants an update every day on what I've been doing Isn't that just a stand up?
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    I am not strictly speaking a developer nor do I work in a department that has developers. The weekly meeting with my manager is called a "touch base" but a daily email summary is also required, only since working from home. Friday we had a "scrum" meeting regarding COVID-19 related work, so I guess the PMs are appropriating agile terms kind of like Wall Street bros like war metaphors.

Uuh no thanks. How about we trust employees and simply check the result of their work? Who cares if someone has spent N hours sitting in front of the screen, show me the results.

steve_adams_86 7y ago

I get that, and I feel the same, but a lot of jobs require time entries with work descriptions. I have had several of them. Finding ways to minimize that burden on your workday is really nice. I hate time tracking. No comment on this product specifically, I'd have to try it. But a lot of us can't just say no thanks to time tracking. I should also add some people benefit personally from making this effort. I have ADHD and though I hate time tracking, the information it gives me is invaluable. I have a terrible sense of time (honestly almost none) and being notified of intervals and knowing what I did is an excellent aid for keeping on track and improving self awareness.

perl4ever 7y ago
I thought I hated time tracking. Now I get to put in one time entry for my whole shift, but I have to make reports constantly on what I'm doing which is a lot more effort than just entering in chronological order what I did. Simple time tracking helps keep you honest and tells you things you weren't aware of, in my experience.

itake 7y ago

As a freelancer, you should track what you worked on when and for how long. If the client comes back and says "you billed me for 4 hours yesterday, what did you do?" During that time you might not have something presentable yet, but you need to track what you did (which might be 'write unit tests for {featureName}" With that said, I'd hate getting interrupted every N minutes. Personally, at the end of a work session, I stop my clock (I bill by the hour) and note any PRs, meetings, or glue-work I did during the work session.

perl4ever 7y ago

I'm used to keeping track of every 15 minute segment of my day, at former jobs. But currently, I'm not expected to do that while working from home, but at the same time my manager wants an update every day on what I've been doing. I'd rather be monitored constantly or make a chronological log than have to engage in basically a marketing exercise every day. I did have a salaried position once where we absolutely had to punch a time clock (and quite a few people grumbled because of the class implication) but there was almost no monitoring on a daily basis. Except you weren't supposed to fall asleep.

Hamuko 7y ago
>but at the same time my manager wants an update every day on what I've been doing Isn't that just a stand up?
- perl4ever 7y ago
  I am not strictly speaking a developer nor do I work in a department that has developers. The weekly meeting with my manager is called a "touch base" but a daily email summary is also required, only since working from home. Friday we had a "scrum" meeting regarding COVID-19 related work, so I guess the PMs are appropriating agile terms kind of like Wall Street bros like war metaphors.