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Random defendant outlawyers P2P attorney, gets lawsuit tossed

42 points by lotusleaf1987 16y ago

zdw 16y ago
Link in article didn't work for me, this one does: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/random-defendant-outlawyers-p2p-attorney-gets-lawsuit-tossed.ars http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/random-defen...
geuis 16y ago
Christ, will these websites please STOP doing this crazy hash bang shit? Its absolutely horrible from a user's perspective. You break the the URL. I don't care if Google said they can crawl it or not, they aren't your primary responsibility. Ever since the Gawker sites switched over to that awful new site design, it has not only been difficult to navigate (UI design problem, not hash bang), but simple things like the back button only work about 50% of the time. I'll put an offer out to the community. If you guys can provide me with a list of urls for sites that use the hash-bang, and that have normal url equivalents, I'll write an extension, site, or javascript bookmarklet that auto-corrects these.
- Joakal 16y ago
  I removed /#!/ part in URL in OP. Went straight to article.
- shii 16y ago
  Where/why/when did this trend start? I saw it first on Twitter and Facebook, then the Gawker family of sites, and now it's spreading to other media outlets like Ars here.
  - uxp 16y ago
    First place I noticed it was "New" Twitter. This article was posted on HN a little while after Gawker changed their design which explains why it was implemented and why it shouldn't have to begin with: http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs/ http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashB... And it's discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2196160 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2196160
kgermino 16y ago
This isn't about a defendant that "outfought" a P2P attorney, this is about a company that tried to mass-sue on the cheap and got a judge that saw right through it. There was a number of problems with the plaintiffs case, the civilian defendant just reminded the judge of what he wanted to do in the first place.
- Natsu 16y ago
  That may be true, but there have been a number of these that went through unopposed and were therefore granted. I've heard lawyers say that you can get away with an awful lot of things if nobody objects.
zyphlar 16y ago
What's awesome here (aside from living in Arizona just like the plaintiff) is that one of the defendants asked the Internet if he should get a lawyer: http://answers.justia.com/question/2010/12/11/i-am-being-sued-cp-productions-piracy-th-3867?answer=1 http://answers.justia.com/question/2010/12/11/i-am-being-sue... Looks like conventional wisdom gets bucked again?

42 points by lotusleaf1987 16y ago

zdw 16y ago

Link in article didn't work for me, this one does: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/random-defendant-outlawyers-p2p-attorney-gets-lawsuit-tossed.ars http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/random-defen...

geuis 16y ago

Christ, will these websites please STOP doing this crazy hash bang shit? Its absolutely horrible from a user's perspective. You break the the URL. I don't care if Google said they can crawl it or not, they aren't your primary responsibility. Ever since the Gawker sites switched over to that awful new site design, it has not only been difficult to navigate (UI design problem, not hash bang), but simple things like the back button only work about 50% of the time. I'll put an offer out to the community. If you guys can provide me with a list of urls for sites that use the hash-bang, and that have normal url equivalents, I'll write an extension, site, or javascript bookmarklet that auto-corrects these.

Joakal 16y ago
I removed /#!/ part in URL in OP. Went straight to article.
shii 16y ago
Where/why/when did this trend start? I saw it first on Twitter and Facebook, then the Gawker family of sites, and now it's spreading to other media outlets like Ars here.
- uxp 16y ago
  First place I noticed it was "New" Twitter. This article was posted on HN a little while after Gawker changed their design which explains why it was implemented and why it shouldn't have to begin with: http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs/ http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashB... And it's discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2196160 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2196160

kgermino 16y ago

This isn't about a defendant that "outfought" a P2P attorney, this is about a company that tried to mass-sue on the cheap and got a judge that saw right through it. There was a number of problems with the plaintiffs case, the civilian defendant just reminded the judge of what he wanted to do in the first place.

Natsu 16y ago
That may be true, but there have been a number of these that went through unopposed and were therefore granted. I've heard lawyers say that you can get away with an awful lot of things if nobody objects.

zyphlar 16y ago

What's awesome here (aside from living in Arizona just like the plaintiff) is that one of the defendants asked the Internet if he should get a lawyer: http://answers.justia.com/question/2010/12/11/i-am-being-sued-cp-productions-piracy-th-3867?answer=1 http://answers.justia.com/question/2010/12/11/i-am-being-sue... Looks like conventional wisdom gets bucked again?