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Skimming through the numbers in the article[1] linked to from here, it's very interesting to see the dynamic that Apple has managed to create around depreciatio

Skimming through the numbers in the article[1] linked to from here, it's very interesting to see the dynamic that Apple has managed to create around depreciation. A 2 year old iPhone can still be traded-in at roughly 50% of the value (whether to Apple or a third-party). The effect that this creates is that it becomes quite reasonable to buy the latest iPhone every two years after trade-in. I'm sure this has a big impact on new device sales, one of the factors as to why Apple beats records every year. On the flip-side, I believe the reason they are able to do this, as the article here notes, is that their phones just last long (hardware/software). My iPhone 8 is not very old, but I'm not planning to stop using it for another 2-3 years at least (unless it shatters). In some ways, this reminds me of ThinkPads, just in terms of how long they can serve their purpose. I'm honestly getting kind of "bored" of Apple devices, but I fear Android devices may not have the same solid 5 - 7 years of support, and as is evident from this article, trade-in value. [1] https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/cell-phone-depreciation-report-2019-2020 https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/cell-phone-depreciation-repo...

kbenson 7y ago
The major android phones (including Google's) only have 2-3 years of support usually. I'm not sure if that also follows with Android One devices. That said, if you're careful with your selection, you can get a repackaged AOSP (e.g. LineageOS) for your hardware and get extended support out of that (unfortunately my Samsung Galaxy S6 is a particular blend of components that never seems to be supported). I actually wouldn't be adverse to buying yearly support for my phone through something like LineageOS if it was available, in case someone thinks they can make a go of that business. There's a lot of older Android phones out there that are really only missing good support to be usable. Especially the o es that support easy battery replacement.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
  Also worth noting that the pixel 3, the phone with the highest drops, had extremely deep discounts associated with Google Fi. At one point you could get one for free. That surely affected the prices on the used market. Of course, the fact that Android phones age less well is probably a factor too.
  - lonelappde 7y ago
    There's also the factor that Google subsidizes Android phones because they profit from you using the phone to view ads (and buy apps). Apple of court profits from you buying apps. Apple users buy more apps. Not sure which users view/click more ads.
    - kbenson 7y ago
      Why is Android subsedize but iOS boy? When is the last time someone paid for iOS or an update to it? The play store functions to make money for Google exactly the same way the app store does for Apple. Apple makes more money from their app store (about twice as much it seems[1]), but it's not correct to imply Apple makes money from their app store but Google doesn't. 1; https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/11/as-usual-apples-app-store-revenue-leads-google-pla.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/11/as-usual-apples-ap...
lonelappde 7y ago
Android devices are EOL (security updates cease) 3 years (Pixel) or less (some others) after launch date (not purchase date).
hinkley 7y ago
Hell I’m still using an iPhone 6s that I got a bit before the 8 came out. Now I have decent Bluetooth headphones, but if AT&T hadn’t been pissing me off with billing issues it might have been end of the year before I got a new one. Battery is holding on better than any of my previous ones. If not for the apocalypse I figure this would have been about the weekend I finally headed over to the TMO store.
darkteflon 7y ago
The older I get, the more appealing a “boring” OS sounds.

kbenson 7y ago

The major android phones (including Google's) only have 2-3 years of support usually. I'm not sure if that also follows with Android One devices. That said, if you're careful with your selection, you can get a repackaged AOSP (e.g. LineageOS) for your hardware and get extended support out of that (unfortunately my Samsung Galaxy S6 is a particular blend of components that never seems to be supported). I actually wouldn't be adverse to buying yearly support for my phone through something like LineageOS if it was available, in case someone thinks they can make a go of that business. There's a lot of older Android phones out there that are really only missing good support to be usable. Especially the o es that support easy battery replacement.

asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
Also worth noting that the pixel 3, the phone with the highest drops, had extremely deep discounts associated with Google Fi. At one point you could get one for free. That surely affected the prices on the used market. Of course, the fact that Android phones age less well is probably a factor too.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  There's also the factor that Google subsidizes Android phones because they profit from you using the phone to view ads (and buy apps). Apple of court profits from you buying apps. Apple users buy more apps. Not sure which users view/click more ads.
  - kbenson 7y ago
    Why is Android subsedize but iOS boy? When is the last time someone paid for iOS or an update to it? The play store functions to make money for Google exactly the same way the app store does for Apple. Apple makes more money from their app store (about twice as much it seems[1]), but it's not correct to imply Apple makes money from their app store but Google doesn't. 1; https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/11/as-usual-apples-app-store-revenue-leads-google-pla.aspx https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/10/11/as-usual-apples-ap...

lonelappde 7y ago

Android devices are EOL (security updates cease) 3 years (Pixel) or less (some others) after launch date (not purchase date).

hinkley 7y ago

Hell I’m still using an iPhone 6s that I got a bit before the 8 came out. Now I have decent Bluetooth headphones, but if AT&T hadn’t been pissing me off with billing issues it might have been end of the year before I got a new one. Battery is holding on better than any of my previous ones. If not for the apocalypse I figure this would have been about the weekend I finally headed over to the TMO store.

darkteflon 7y ago

The older I get, the more appealing a “boring” OS sounds.