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In Alberta too. No surprise really. Both Quebec and Alberta (also Ontario) have LOTS [1] of political influence from traditional engineering companies. You kn

In Alberta too. No surprise really. Both Quebec and Alberta (also Ontario) have LOTS [1] of political influence from traditional engineering companies. You know, not that long ago in Alberta, you could use "Software Engineer" without a P.Eng license. Then the engineering society (APEGA) sued someone (Raymond Merhej) who did that [2]. But Raymond won in the courts. So APEGA appealed. But Raymond won the appeal in the courts too. So APEGA lobbied the Alberta Government to change the laws. And APEGA won. [1] An example from Quebec: SNC-Lavalin affair (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNC-Lavalin_affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNC-Lavalin_affair ). And from Alberta: "Kenney’s United Conservatives were elected last April on a promise to focus on oil and gas and bring jobs back to Alberta by reducing the corporate income tax rate and red tape" (Alberta government files red ink budget with focus on oil and gas, https://canada.constructconnect.com/joc/news/government/2020/02/alberta-government-files-red-ink-budget-with-focus-on-oil-and-gas https://canada.constructconnect.com/joc/news/government/2020... ) [2] https://www.itbusiness.ca/news/it-industry-wins-round-in-engineering-name-debacle/4133 https://www.itbusiness.ca/news/it-industry-wins-round-in-eng...

cmrdporcupine 7y ago
Yeah, I'm from Alberta and went to the U of A (but for A B.A. philosophy [unfinished] not CS). Back in the 90s I ended up having to come out here to Ontario to get work in software development; not just because there wasn't any work in Edmonton really but because companies there really weren't even going to look at someone without a CS or engineering degree. Every once in a while I muse about moving back there and I take a look around at job postings and I think even with my 8 years as a SWE at Google (and a 20 year career in dev generally) I might have a hard time landing a job there; lots of postings heavily emphasizing the academic angle and obviously trying to pull people straight out of the university. It's a more conservative business culture in some ways.

cmrdporcupine 7y ago

Yeah, I'm from Alberta and went to the U of A (but for A B.A. philosophy [unfinished] not CS). Back in the 90s I ended up having to come out here to Ontario to get work in software development; not just because there wasn't any work in Edmonton really but because companies there really weren't even going to look at someone without a CS or engineering degree. Every once in a while I muse about moving back there and I take a look around at job postings and I think even with my 8 years as a SWE at Google (and a 20 year career in dev generally) I might have a hard time landing a job there; lots of postings heavily emphasizing the academic angle and obviously trying to pull people straight out of the university. It's a more conservative business culture in some ways.