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I don't think that's vanity, I think they made a conscious tradeoff in service of thinner computers. It's a good tradeoff in my opinion: the thinness of the com

I don't think that's vanity, I think they made a conscious tradeoff in service of thinner computers. It's a good tradeoff in my opinion: the thinness of the computer has more of an impact on my average day to day usage than being able to remove a faulty logic board.

thelittleone 7y ago
Until your logic board fails (mine has failed and been replaced 3 times on a 2016 MBP). How much space did it save to remove the most simple data recovery option that ever existed?
- lonelappde 7y ago
  Not removed. https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macbook-pro-ssd-recover-repairs/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macboo...
- FabHK 7y ago
  I had a 2016 MBP that had everything replaced at least once except the bottom case (with the serial number on it, lol). That thing then failed entirely again about 2 months after Apple Care ended. Good news: Apple elected to replace the machine for free, as I had so much trouble with it. Bad news: he machine will ship directly from the factory in China, when it’s been built, to the Apple store, where I can pick it up when they’re open again... So, thanks to Apple and SARS-CoV-2 I have had no laptop for more than 5 weeks. :-/
  - thelittleone 7y ago
    Wow sorry to hear that. I've had the same experience with my 15" MBP. Apple replaced everything apart from bottom case. The bottom case has no components. Despite that, the laptop died again (and several times since). I live in Bali (Indonesia), there is no Apple store in Indonesia. The only domestic option is an authorized service center. A hardware replacement such as logic board or screen is a 5-6 week wait time. My laptop is my primary work tool. 5-6 weeks without income? So instead I've opted to fly to a city with an Apple Store and Genius Bar. So far I have flown internationally 12 times to get this laptop repaired. I'm compiling a list of all the hardware faults, days out of service and hours on calls to Apple and hardware faults and will take this to the consumer court in Australia which is quite effective usually. And, now the laptop has died again, it can't find the SSD. Trying to install OSX to an external USB also fails, implying another logic board fault. I write this from a 2010 Mac Mini connected to a 2007 30" Apple Cinema Display, both work perfectly, not a single failure ever.

thelittleone 7y ago

Until your logic board fails (mine has failed and been replaced 3 times on a 2016 MBP). How much space did it save to remove the most simple data recovery option that ever existed?

lonelappde 7y ago
Not removed. https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macbook-pro-ssd-recover-repairs/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macboo...
FabHK 7y ago
I had a 2016 MBP that had everything replaced at least once except the bottom case (with the serial number on it, lol). That thing then failed entirely again about 2 months after Apple Care ended. Good news: Apple elected to replace the machine for free, as I had so much trouble with it. Bad news: he machine will ship directly from the factory in China, when it’s been built, to the Apple store, where I can pick it up when they’re open again... So, thanks to Apple and SARS-CoV-2 I have had no laptop for more than 5 weeks. :-/
- thelittleone 7y ago
  Wow sorry to hear that. I've had the same experience with my 15" MBP. Apple replaced everything apart from bottom case. The bottom case has no components. Despite that, the laptop died again (and several times since). I live in Bali (Indonesia), there is no Apple store in Indonesia. The only domestic option is an authorized service center. A hardware replacement such as logic board or screen is a 5-6 week wait time. My laptop is my primary work tool. 5-6 weeks without income? So instead I've opted to fly to a city with an Apple Store and Genius Bar. So far I have flown internationally 12 times to get this laptop repaired. I'm compiling a list of all the hardware faults, days out of service and hours on calls to Apple and hardware faults and will take this to the consumer court in Australia which is quite effective usually. And, now the laptop has died again, it can't find the SSD. Trying to install OSX to an external USB also fails, implying another logic board fault. I write this from a 2010 Mac Mini connected to a 2007 30" Apple Cinema Display, both work perfectly, not a single failure ever.