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Sorry, but I'm not really interested in responding to snarky sarcastic gotcha questions. If you have a point to make, make it.

dvtrn 7y ago
I'm not being snarky, I'm trying to understand your disagreement with the medical community who have repeatedly advised us "this is not like these other things, please do not compare them to these other things" vs your responses of "why aren't we acting like this with other stuff" and essentially doing exactly what the people trying to get us out of this are saying DON'T DO. That's my point. Could I have an answer?
- ceilingcorner 7y ago
  Well it's certainly not "just another flu" so I don't disagree with doctors there at all. I mentioned it in another comment, but: the doctors are not the problem here. Of course doctors will recommend the best medical advice and I don't doubt the medical consensus. The issue is a broader one: what are the societal and economic consequences of total shutdown? Are these consequences better or worse than the estimated death count of the virus? Keep in mind that this includes death, too. Is there something we can do that attempts to minimize the negatives of both? These are difficult questions and I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm simply noting that even suggesting an alternate path is shouted down.
  - cosmiccatnap 7y ago
    The fact that you just won't admit you might not have thought this through says more about your openions validity than anything else.
  - dvtrn 7y ago
    These are difficult questions and I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm simply noting that even suggesting an alternate path is shouted down. Reading this thread, and several others and watching several other discourses, I do not see that to really be the case in whole. In part maybe, in whole? No. Disagreements are being had sure about this or that element of this situation, but disagreements have great capacity to forment solutions whereas this 'taking your ball home' attitude of assuming dissent implicates snark and disagreements implicate being "shouted down" (especially when, as you've done earlier: presenting various whatabouts when there are people who are actively trying to understand this disease and bring about solutions are screaming "STOP THAT") is it self an alternative path I think many people prefer to avoid. Good luck. Wash your hands.

dvtrn 7y ago

I'm not being snarky, I'm trying to understand your disagreement with the medical community who have repeatedly advised us "this is not like these other things, please do not compare them to these other things" vs your responses of "why aren't we acting like this with other stuff" and essentially doing exactly what the people trying to get us out of this are saying DON'T DO. That's my point. Could I have an answer?

ceilingcorner 7y ago
Well it's certainly not "just another flu" so I don't disagree with doctors there at all. I mentioned it in another comment, but: the doctors are not the problem here. Of course doctors will recommend the best medical advice and I don't doubt the medical consensus. The issue is a broader one: what are the societal and economic consequences of total shutdown? Are these consequences better or worse than the estimated death count of the virus? Keep in mind that this includes death, too. Is there something we can do that attempts to minimize the negatives of both? These are difficult questions and I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm simply noting that even suggesting an alternate path is shouted down.
- cosmiccatnap 7y ago
  The fact that you just won't admit you might not have thought this through says more about your openions validity than anything else.
- dvtrn 7y ago
  These are difficult questions and I don't pretend to have the answers. I'm simply noting that even suggesting an alternate path is shouted down. Reading this thread, and several others and watching several other discourses, I do not see that to really be the case in whole. In part maybe, in whole? No. Disagreements are being had sure about this or that element of this situation, but disagreements have great capacity to forment solutions whereas this 'taking your ball home' attitude of assuming dissent implicates snark and disagreements implicate being "shouted down" (especially when, as you've done earlier: presenting various whatabouts when there are people who are actively trying to understand this disease and bring about solutions are screaming "STOP THAT") is it self an alternative path I think many people prefer to avoid. Good luck. Wash your hands.