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Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races
- leemailll 7y agoLol. Let’s see how they implant the rules. Or crashtappen wins?
- gil 7y agoThis will be entertaining due to the well known driver names BUT not high level by any means: "Due to the wide variety of gaming skill levels amongst the drivers, game settings will be configured in such a way to encourage competitive and entertaining racing. This includes running equal car performance with fixed setups, reduced vehicle damage, and optional anti-lock brakes and traction control for those less familiar with the game." More like a "So You Think You Can Dance" celebrity edition than anything else. A much higher level event which also includes some IRL drivers from multiple series is: The Race All-Star Esports Battle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_RV5UY8mk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_RV5UY8mk) Higher level mostly because they race in rFactor2 which is a better simulator than F1 2019 and there are no driver aids. Also because everyone on the grid are long-ish time sim racers, even if some of them also happen to be IRL drivers (Max Verstappen, Felix Rosenqvist, Antonio Felix da Costa, a few others) Here's a good list of motorsports eSports events for the next few days: https://the-race.com/esports/the-complete-motorsport-esports-schedule/ https://the-race.com/esports/the-complete-motorsport-esports...
- runawaybottle 7y agoIs the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.
- w-m 7y agoIn the Netflix series, Drive to Survive, you could see one of the younger drivers (I don't recall who it was) play the Codemasters game at home. It didn't look like exposition or product placement, but rather like something that they regularly did to train.
- dennismp 7y agoBoth Max Verstappen and Lando Norris does this regularly. Lando also stream at times.
- tentboy 7y agoI think they showed Max or Alex but I don't remember for sure - but that was certainly product placement/he was just playing it for fun. Lando and Max play alot of iRacing which is the most comprehensive and realistic simulator which can actually help you train for motorsports (I use it to learn tracks before I race in a miata) and I think they recently got Carlos and Alex into playing. Besides, all the teams have their own non commercial simulators miles ahead of what you can play at home
- codysc 7y agoI think that's mostly to build familiarity with the tracks. Many games have done excellent jobs of mapping the tracks to high precision including the backgrounds. So, all the visual cues will translate well to real life. I've done this myself for some track days (not races) and can tell you it absolutely helps even at my tragically amateurish skill level.
- omegabravo 7y agoSeason 2 - Episode 5, they showed Pierre Gasly with his basic home setup. ~25min
- wmeredith 7y agoPlaying video games isn’t a good way to practice F1 racing, but it’s probably a great to memorize a track layout.
- joncrane 7y agoNo. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk aversion is higher than when it's a video game. Secondly, the drivers train massively to withstand the physical forces that F1 racing causes on the body. Take away those physical aspects and a) the barrier to entry is much lower and b) the drivers are probably used to being able to feel what the car is doing, and that tactile connection is completely broken in a video game.
- sprsquish 7y agoI think your point about not feeling the car is a big part of what makes driving a simulator so difficult. Every part of a real car is giving the driver direct feedback into various parts of their body. How hard they are on the brake and throttle. Small changes in lateral g-force let them know how close to the edge of traction they are. The screen isn't going to be the same as the real world. The only feedback you get from an (affordable) at-home sim is through the screen and wheel. It requires you to tune into different sensations. On the last stream Lando Norris (McLaren F1 driver) was asked if it felt like the real thing. He was response was something like, "Not at all. Nothing is like driving an F1 car."
- C1sc0cat 7y agoIts the shear physical impact on the driver - I recall seeing drivers having difficulty at the end of the race getting out of the car.
- sjm-lbm 7y agoThis is correct - Top Gear did a test years ago where they put a very good sim racer in a real race car (https://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/geek-rebooted https://www.topgear.com/car-news/gaming/geek-rebooted). TLDR: he did OK, but was nowhere up to the physical challenge of staying in that car for full race distance. And, for the record, that car won't be on the same planet as an F1 car in terms of physical forces put on a driver.
- torbital 7y agoI'm surprised they didn't go with a more mainstream title like Forza, which has surprisingly accurate physics in it. It's not specifically built for F1, but maybe they could do a DLC for this. The other huge benefit is that players can put themselves in the same setups as the drivers and compare speeds. That would be awesome.
- notatoad 7y agoYou're surprised they're using their own-branded game instead of a third party game?
- magila 7y agoCompared to other racing simulators the official F1 games are, to put it kindly, not the highest fidelity. Their design is geared towards mass market accessibility, not accuracy. For more serious sim racing, iRacing is usually the game of choice. Some of the younger F1 drivers play iRacing in their (now quite copious) spare time and they generally do quite well.
- coldpie 7y agoYeah, I was surprised to see they're going with F1 instead of iRacing. I guess it makes sense for branding/licensing deals, but iRacing is the far better sim.
- skunkworker 7y agoThey should really just do F3 with iRacing, or add a significantly better model for the F1 and give all drivers direct drive setups.
- tsomctl 7y agoHow about streaming some previous races? I could always watch last years German race again.
- w-m 7y agoNext up in remote work: the Olympics. There's a great tradition of video games in Japan, surely if Formula 1 can do it, they can do it for the Olympics, too?
- oopsies49 7y agoNascar is doing something similar. https://www.enascar.com/news-media/2020/03/19/fox-sports-to-deliver-sundays-enascar-iracing-pro-invitational-series-on-fs1/?linkId=100000011277236 https://www.enascar.com/news-media/2020/03/19/fox-sports-to-...
- jerkstate 7y agoI watched the virtual races and without damage or real marshalling they just seemed too forgiving of mistakes, and I got bored. Also shorter races = less strategy choices. Also, Codemasters is not the best simulation, would be a lot cooler if the teams modeled this years cars in a better engine.
- t0mas88 7y agoThe strategy on a 50% setting works the same as in a full race. If tyres normally last 20 laps, at 50% they will last 10 laps.
- toyg 7y agoThis is fun! Obviously not a patch on the real thing, but could still be entertaining, as long as they keep non-real-racers out. The minute you add an esport driver I lose all interest.
- runawaybottle 7y agoThis global situation seems like the ultimate time to fire up every major esport tournament.
- jdmichal 7y agoMeanwhile, League of Legends suspended all professional leagues, because they don't play remotely. I'm pretty sure they even have isolated, local servers for tournament play. And I still see games paused with "lag" as the reported reason.
- rekabmot 7y agoThe EU League is actually resuming this evening, playing 100% remotely: https://watch.lolesports.com/article/lec-returns-this-friday!/bltbb70b693c95587ef https://watch.lolesports.com/article/lec-returns-this-friday...
- dlbucci 7y agoThere's always Marbula 1: https://youtu.be/55iTYdRDG4s https://youtu.be/55iTYdRDG4s I don't even watch F1 but this has me addicted.
- gaogao 7y agoI've heard ESPN2 is going to show marble racing again, as they switch into The Ocho mode to deal with the lack of sports.
- smrq 7y agoAlso, props to the people at Formula 1 for allowing them to use the name Marbula 1. (As opposed to the Olympic committee, who cracked down on the Marblelympics and forced them to change to the Marble League. No fun allowed.)
- toyg 7y agoMan, that’s boring. This is what you should watch instead: https://youtu.be/agNt0jFdgr0 https://youtu.be/agNt0jFdgr0
- jfk13 7y agoLooks like a bootleg re-upload of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cBHmu_cNww https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cBHmu_cNww ; please don't promote stolen content.
- blakes 7y agoYou might like the Die Cast Racing channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPxqKmqjP6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPxqKmqjP6c So fun, and the commentary is so good.
- selimthegrim 7y agoJust waiting for Speedvision to do lawn mowers again
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- hexadec 7y agoThis is a great official move, but there was already a Australia race last weekend with Lando, Max, and some Youtubers like Jimmy Broadbent. Interesting to see who comes out on top in the official versus grassroots virtual racing scene. The unofficial stream used iRacing and F1 2019 which is interesting but that was kind of last minute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=872hSgx4HUc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=872hSgx4HUc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0oSqJsh0DA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0oSqJsh0DA