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Let me ask you a question. Has _anybody_ in the House or the Senate done anything to prevent this in January? Trump closed the flights at least, over the object

by m0zg 7y ago

Let me ask you a question. Has _anybody_ in the House or the Senate done anything to prevent this in January? Trump closed the flights at least, over the objections of both the (Chinese-funded) WHO and the Congress. Maybe he was hoping it'd be enough - we barely had any cases back then. Meanwhile everybody else was preoccupied with such "important" matters as impeachment, and tearing up the State of the Union address on TV. Mike Tyson said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth", but to me it seems like the only person who had _any_ kind of plan for this at the end of January was Trump. That plan, in retrospect, was inadequate, but nobody else did anything at all until almost the end of February.

me_me_me 7y ago
This argument is like arguing which poop smells less. They are all incompetent cowards worried about their image first. None of them would do anything to tarnish their chance for re-election, all of the 'drastic' measures are taken after public is OK with it (i.e. too late to be drastic measures). So maybe both sides can acknowledge the fact that they tried to defend their own little piles of poop and move on.
nate_meurer 7y ago
> to me it seems like the only person who had _any_ kind of plan for this at the end of January was Trump. Honestly, I think this might the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about on this topic. There was a chorus of experts telling us exactly what we needed to do in order to prepare for this. And we already had a model to follow in China. The US and South Korea confirmed their first cases at the same time -- January 20. South Korea's government did what the experts told them to do, and they fairly quickly had their situation under control. Our president spent the next month and a half downplaying the disease and vilifying the media for reporting it, and making it clear that the most important thing to him is "his" stock market numbers. Yes he restricted travel to China, good job. Yes some pundits and politicians criticized him. Welcome to being president. Obama could do almost literally nothing without being called a "communist muslim". Trump told us he was "tough" -- a strong decisive leader who would make bold decisions whenever needed. His complacence, dishonesty, incompetence, and constant ass-covering in this crisis should show you who he really is.

by m0zg 7y ago

me_me_me 7y ago

This argument is like arguing which poop smells less. They are all incompetent cowards worried about their image first. None of them would do anything to tarnish their chance for re-election, all of the 'drastic' measures are taken after public is OK with it (i.e. too late to be drastic measures). So maybe both sides can acknowledge the fact that they tried to defend their own little piles of poop and move on.

nate_meurer 7y ago

> to me it seems like the only person who had _any_ kind of plan for this at the end of January was Trump. Honestly, I think this might the dumbest thing I've heard anyone say about on this topic. There was a chorus of experts telling us exactly what we needed to do in order to prepare for this. And we already had a model to follow in China. The US and South Korea confirmed their first cases at the same time -- January 20. South Korea's government did what the experts told them to do, and they fairly quickly had their situation under control. Our president spent the next month and a half downplaying the disease and vilifying the media for reporting it, and making it clear that the most important thing to him is "his" stock market numbers. Yes he restricted travel to China, good job. Yes some pundits and politicians criticized him. Welcome to being president. Obama could do almost literally nothing without being called a "communist muslim". Trump told us he was "tough" -- a strong decisive leader who would make bold decisions whenever needed. His complacence, dishonesty, incompetence, and constant ass-covering in this crisis should show you who he really is.