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No. I don't have problem with netflix reducing it. I have problem with netflix not reducing price together. They're essentially painting themselves in glory A

by rdslw 7y ago

No. I don't have problem with netflix reducing it. I have problem with netflix not reducing price together. They're essentially painting themselves in glory AT THE PRICE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.

lultimouomo 7y ago
I don't even have a problem with Netflix not reducing the price. It think they should take the hit in place of their customers, but whatever, if your problem right now is that you're paying for 4k and not getting it, suck it up. But really the praise for Netflix is a bit off tone - they're not making any sacrifice at all.
- jsjddbbwj 7y ago
  "If you don't get what you pay for, then suck it up." Remember some Netflix clients pay MORE to enjoy higher quality. If Netflix artificially limits that quality, no matter the reason, then they shouldn't be charging that full price. Netflix is getting the best part of it: charging the same money, paying less for bandwidth, and they excuse themselves because the EU asked them to do it. It's the ISPs that should be solving this via QoS, but of course it's the ISPs that have the politicians in their pockets. No commissioner is going to demand them to do anything.
  - illumanaughty 7y ago
    It's a global pandemic right now. Netflix has taken immediate action in a way that matters (ensuring internet access) and has yet to take action in a way that doesn't matter nearly as much (making their high paying customers happy). Yes, you pay more for HD content. But people are dying, so chill.
  - lultimouomo 7y ago
    We pay for schools and our children stay home. We pay for street maintenance and we're locked in our houses. We pay for government and elections are being postponed. We pay for healthcare and people are not getting the care they need. We keep paying, because if we stop after the epidemic there won't be schools, there won't be road maintenance companies, there won't be a functioning government, there won't be hospitals, because they will have run out of money. 4K Netflix? Suck it up, or feel free to sue them. Courts are in lockdown as well so you might have to wait a few years to get your 10$ back.
    - pythonaut_16 7y ago
      Because compulsory taxes that pay for a public good are exactly the same as a private company where users may elect to pay for one of several tiers of service.
      - nicoburns 7y ago
        The point is that service levels for almost everything are degraded currently due to nobody's fault.
        jsjddbbwj 7y ago
        That's not true. Most ISPs are not having congestion problems.
    - kkarakk 7y ago
      Do you work for netflix or something? these are some heavy comparisons you're making. Netflix is a premium service and they charge a premium rate for it! 15 bucks a month could buy Disney+ too ya know ;)
    - jsjddbbwj 7y ago
      Are you really comparing public, vital services to Netflix?
  - gls2ro 7y ago
    I am looking at their plans (at least how it appears in Europe) and the difference between the plans are: - video quality - number of screens I for example play for both differences. So if they reduce only one for me it is still good. Their pricing plans are not black and white only about video quality. Each plan increases both video quality and screen numbers.
teekert 7y ago
That also means reducing the wages of employees, people not whinig is the only shimmer of hope we have at keeping the economy the same when we emerge from this. Sure, I can't go to my gym, but if we all cancel now, there won't be a gym when I am allowed to go again. At the same time my income might, at some point, also be affect. But, as it is now it is not (yet), so I'll keep it going. I have to admit I did cancel my 360 euros/month public transport subscription. Their service is also reduce by a lot. So who am I to judge.
- csunbird 7y ago
  Where do you live? 360 euros per month is extremely high for a public transport subscription.
  - teekert 7y ago
    It's an unlimited subscription, because I travel 100 km (back and forth, so 200 total) per day usually (well, I do work at home a lot and on the train itself). It's a life choice, I know. Love the city I live, love the company I work for... Can't choose.
- emerongi 7y ago
  If your gym won't be able to re-open after this thing is over, it only shows the quality of management of the gym as well as of the government. It should not be your burden to bear and build a buffer for them for their mistakes. Someone higher up pocketed all the profits while things were good and is now not ready to invest that money back into it to keep it afloat and that's THEIR problem. They have the money, let them put it back into the economy. Cancel your membership and stop giving into the bullshit that people are feeding to you. If you want to help, help people, not corporations.
  - teekert 7y ago
    The owner is just some dude, granted he has a nicer car than me :)
  - mikelward 7y ago
kristiandupont 7y ago
How do you know that they won't repay the additional fee or make up for it in some other way? They haven't even issued a press release about this yet.

by rdslw 7y ago

No. I don't have problem with netflix reducing it. I have problem with netflix not reducing price together. They're essentially painting themselves in glory AT THE PRICE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.

lultimouomo 7y ago

I don't even have a problem with Netflix not reducing the price. It think they should take the hit in place of their customers, but whatever, if your problem right now is that you're paying for 4k and not getting it, suck it up. But really the praise for Netflix is a bit off tone - they're not making any sacrifice at all.

jsjddbbwj 7y ago
"If you don't get what you pay for, then suck it up." Remember some Netflix clients pay MORE to enjoy higher quality. If Netflix artificially limits that quality, no matter the reason, then they shouldn't be charging that full price. Netflix is getting the best part of it: charging the same money, paying less for bandwidth, and they excuse themselves because the EU asked them to do it. It's the ISPs that should be solving this via QoS, but of course it's the ISPs that have the politicians in their pockets. No commissioner is going to demand them to do anything.
- illumanaughty 7y ago
  It's a global pandemic right now. Netflix has taken immediate action in a way that matters (ensuring internet access) and has yet to take action in a way that doesn't matter nearly as much (making their high paying customers happy). Yes, you pay more for HD content. But people are dying, so chill.
- lultimouomo 7y ago
  We pay for schools and our children stay home. We pay for street maintenance and we're locked in our houses. We pay for government and elections are being postponed. We pay for healthcare and people are not getting the care they need. We keep paying, because if we stop after the epidemic there won't be schools, there won't be road maintenance companies, there won't be a functioning government, there won't be hospitals, because they will have run out of money. 4K Netflix? Suck it up, or feel free to sue them. Courts are in lockdown as well so you might have to wait a few years to get your 10$ back.
  - pythonaut_16 7y ago
    Because compulsory taxes that pay for a public good are exactly the same as a private company where users may elect to pay for one of several tiers of service.
    - nicoburns 7y ago
      The point is that service levels for almost everything are degraded currently due to nobody's fault.
      - jsjddbbwj 7y ago
        That's not true. Most ISPs are not having congestion problems.
  - kkarakk 7y ago
    Do you work for netflix or something? these are some heavy comparisons you're making. Netflix is a premium service and they charge a premium rate for it! 15 bucks a month could buy Disney+ too ya know ;)
  - jsjddbbwj 7y ago
    Are you really comparing public, vital services to Netflix?
- gls2ro 7y ago
  I am looking at their plans (at least how it appears in Europe) and the difference between the plans are: - video quality - number of screens I for example play for both differences. So if they reduce only one for me it is still good. Their pricing plans are not black and white only about video quality. Each plan increases both video quality and screen numbers.

teekert 7y ago

That also means reducing the wages of employees, people not whinig is the only shimmer of hope we have at keeping the economy the same when we emerge from this. Sure, I can't go to my gym, but if we all cancel now, there won't be a gym when I am allowed to go again. At the same time my income might, at some point, also be affect. But, as it is now it is not (yet), so I'll keep it going. I have to admit I did cancel my 360 euros/month public transport subscription. Their service is also reduce by a lot. So who am I to judge.

csunbird 7y ago
Where do you live? 360 euros per month is extremely high for a public transport subscription.
- teekert 7y ago
  It's an unlimited subscription, because I travel 100 km (back and forth, so 200 total) per day usually (well, I do work at home a lot and on the train itself). It's a life choice, I know. Love the city I live, love the company I work for... Can't choose.
emerongi 7y ago
If your gym won't be able to re-open after this thing is over, it only shows the quality of management of the gym as well as of the government. It should not be your burden to bear and build a buffer for them for their mistakes. Someone higher up pocketed all the profits while things were good and is now not ready to invest that money back into it to keep it afloat and that's THEIR problem. They have the money, let them put it back into the economy. Cancel your membership and stop giving into the bullshit that people are feeding to you. If you want to help, help people, not corporations.
- teekert 7y ago
  The owner is just some dude, granted he has a nicer car than me :)
- mikelward 7y ago

kristiandupont 7y ago

How do you know that they won't repay the additional fee or make up for it in some other way? They haven't even issued a press release about this yet.