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I really wish I could make a difference like that.

pxtail 7y ago
Stories like this one usually give me bunch of really uneasy thoughts and feelings. It is difficult to avoid comparing own life path and choices to other people's - she achieved incredible things, saved lives and will be inspiration for many. And here I am, sitting countless hours behind screen,doing all these irrelevant things, writing code which maybe will increase someone's profit insignificantly. It is like it is.
- femto 7y ago
  But working under Catherine Hamlin are a bunch of people doing "irrelevant" things. Someone has to empty the garbage bins in the wards, but the hospital wouldn't work without that person. You don't have to run the show to be making a contribution.
  - subpixel 7y ago
    You can, however, choose the circus you join. If you feel meh about what you do and you feel meh - or worse - about the organization you do it for, it's normal to feel uncomfortable.
    - alltakendamned 7y ago
      I've always wondered how an infosec specialisation could contribute to this kind of organisation instead of working exclusively for massive companies. I just have not seen the possibility yet I guess.
  - toomanybeersies 7y ago
    As I always say: somebody had to fix Einstein's car.
- dntbnmpls 7y ago
  > Stories like this one usually give me bunch of really uneasy thoughts and feelings. Stories like these are exactly that - stories. Nobody is a saint. Not in this world. People said the same thing about mother teresa and she turned out to be an awful person who enjoyed seeing the suffering of others. Gandhi? MLK? [insert any name of a media's "saint"]. Ultimately, we find out that they were all too human and the sainthood bestowed on them by the media is bullshit. > And here I am, sitting countless hours behind screen,doing all these irrelevant things, writing code which maybe will increase someone's profit insignificantly. The true heroes are the ordinary people who labor away in anonymity. There has never been a truly good person on the BBC or any major "news" site.
  - michaelmrose 7y ago
    It does not follow that because all people are flawed that she was a monster nor does it follow that since some people have been portrayed inaccurately that she was. >The true heroes are the ordinary people who labor away in anonymity. There has never been a truly good person on the BBC or any major "news" site. This is fetishizing following different biases as being an individualist. If the mainstream press reports 2 + 2 = 4 saying it's 17 isn't brave its a failure of analysis.
    - dntbnmpls 7y ago
      > It does not follow that because all people are flawed that she was a monster It does not follow because you just built up a straw man. I didn't say she is a monster, I just said nobody is a saint. "Ultimately, we find out that they were all too human and the sainthood bestowed on them by the media is bullshit." > If the mainstream press reports 2 + 2 = 4 saying it's 17 isn't brave its a failure of analysis. In this case, it's the media who is saying it's 17. As I pointed out, every "saint" created by the media propaganda has been shown to be far from it. From gandhi to mlk to even lincoln, hitler, mao, you get the idea.
      - michaelmrose 7y ago
        This is shallow analysis that adds little to the discussion.
brlewis 7y ago
Do you work with information? Re-read the article and notice how many of her great accomplishments were directly diagnosing and treating patients, which you can't do, and how many were making sure the right information went to the right place, which you can.
- hyperpallium 7y ago
  Yes, information has a role everywhere, but the article only mentions a telegram and "nobody knows about these women". What did I miss?
  - brlewis 7y ago
    First example: But the Hamlins knew it was both fixable and preventable - as they told Ethiopia's then ruler, Haile Selassie. "He said, why do my women get this terrible thing where they can’t control their body waste?" Dr Hamlin told the BBC. "We said, it is nothing to do with your women, it is to do with your lack of doctors in the countryside when they need to have a Caesarian section." Second example: But the Hamlins would not only help repair the damage; they also gave Mamitu - who has no formal education - a new career: she is now an internationally respected fistula surgeon, having been taught by the Hamlins. Third example: Then, in 2007, Dr Hamlin saw one of her initial dreams finally fulfilled: the Hamlin College of Midwives opened.
    - hyperpallium 7y ago
      Thanks for your detailed reply. As I said, information has a role in everything, but I don't think these examples are especially about information, in the sense of an IT-worker. 1. Ethiopia's ruler needed someone credible to tell him. 2. Training a surgeon is about skill and knowledge, more than information. 3. How is opening a "College of Midwives" about information, except in the general sense that education involves information?
      - brlewis 7y ago
        Getting the right information to the right people is key to success. There are people as skilled and knowledgeable as these doctors who can only have great impact when they work together with information systems.

Stories like this one usually give me bunch of really uneasy thoughts and feelings. It is difficult to avoid comparing own life path and choices to other people's - she achieved incredible things, saved lives and will be inspiration for many. And here I am, sitting countless hours behind screen,doing all these irrelevant things, writing code which maybe will increase someone's profit insignificantly. It is like it is.

femto 7y ago
But working under Catherine Hamlin are a bunch of people doing "irrelevant" things. Someone has to empty the garbage bins in the wards, but the hospital wouldn't work without that person. You don't have to run the show to be making a contribution.
- subpixel 7y ago
  You can, however, choose the circus you join. If you feel meh about what you do and you feel meh - or worse - about the organization you do it for, it's normal to feel uncomfortable.
  - alltakendamned 7y ago
    I've always wondered how an infosec specialisation could contribute to this kind of organisation instead of working exclusively for massive companies. I just have not seen the possibility yet I guess.
- toomanybeersies 7y ago
  As I always say: somebody had to fix Einstein's car.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> Stories like this one usually give me bunch of really uneasy thoughts and feelings. Stories like these are exactly that - stories. Nobody is a saint. Not in this world. People said the same thing about mother teresa and she turned out to be an awful person who enjoyed seeing the suffering of others. Gandhi? MLK? [insert any name of a media's "saint"]. Ultimately, we find out that they were all too human and the sainthood bestowed on them by the media is bullshit. > And here I am, sitting countless hours behind screen,doing all these irrelevant things, writing code which maybe will increase someone's profit insignificantly. The true heroes are the ordinary people who labor away in anonymity. There has never been a truly good person on the BBC or any major "news" site.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  It does not follow that because all people are flawed that she was a monster nor does it follow that since some people have been portrayed inaccurately that she was. >The true heroes are the ordinary people who labor away in anonymity. There has never been a truly good person on the BBC or any major "news" site. This is fetishizing following different biases as being an individualist. If the mainstream press reports 2 + 2 = 4 saying it's 17 isn't brave its a failure of analysis.
  - dntbnmpls 7y ago
    > It does not follow that because all people are flawed that she was a monster It does not follow because you just built up a straw man. I didn't say she is a monster, I just said nobody is a saint. "Ultimately, we find out that they were all too human and the sainthood bestowed on them by the media is bullshit." > If the mainstream press reports 2 + 2 = 4 saying it's 17 isn't brave its a failure of analysis. In this case, it's the media who is saying it's 17. As I pointed out, every "saint" created by the media propaganda has been shown to be far from it. From gandhi to mlk to even lincoln, hitler, mao, you get the idea.
    - michaelmrose 7y ago
      This is shallow analysis that adds little to the discussion.

brlewis 7y ago

Do you work with information? Re-read the article and notice how many of her great accomplishments were directly diagnosing and treating patients, which you can't do, and how many were making sure the right information went to the right place, which you can.

hyperpallium 7y ago
Yes, information has a role everywhere, but the article only mentions a telegram and "nobody knows about these women". What did I miss?
- brlewis 7y ago
  First example: But the Hamlins knew it was both fixable and preventable - as they told Ethiopia's then ruler, Haile Selassie. "He said, why do my women get this terrible thing where they can’t control their body waste?" Dr Hamlin told the BBC. "We said, it is nothing to do with your women, it is to do with your lack of doctors in the countryside when they need to have a Caesarian section." Second example: But the Hamlins would not only help repair the damage; they also gave Mamitu - who has no formal education - a new career: she is now an internationally respected fistula surgeon, having been taught by the Hamlins. Third example: Then, in 2007, Dr Hamlin saw one of her initial dreams finally fulfilled: the Hamlin College of Midwives opened.
  - hyperpallium 7y ago
    Thanks for your detailed reply. As I said, information has a role in everything, but I don't think these examples are especially about information, in the sense of an IT-worker. 1. Ethiopia's ruler needed someone credible to tell him. 2. Training a surgeon is about skill and knowledge, more than information. 3. How is opening a "College of Midwives" about information, except in the general sense that education involves information?
    - brlewis 7y ago
      Getting the right information to the right people is key to success. There are people as skilled and knowledgeable as these doctors who can only have great impact when they work together with information systems.