> wildly equivocates between containers and Kubernetes The conflation of containers and K8s is pretty damning. I personally believe k8s is an early realizatio

> wildly equivocates between containers and Kubernetes The conflation of containers and K8s is pretty damning. I personally believe k8s is an early realization of orchestration and will be superseded by better ones. Building yet another orchestration system is a cottage industry at the moment and I've noticed that the existence of k8s hasn't impeded it. And "spin up a linux box" is deeply naive. It is the habit of spinning up linux instances that leave companies and other institutions with huge collections of neglected, mis-configured, vulnerable linux VMs spread all over the planet with 0.1% average utilization. Developers popularized containers, independent of the cloud or the troubles of operations. Containers solve tough development and packaging problems and have value whether the ultimate deployment abstraction is 'docker' or some microVM system. The most likely use case for whatever microVM product one might imagine is running containers.