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China's official stance is that virus was developed by CIA and brought to Wuhan by US military [1]. So they'll have to reopen wet markets or else be seen as adm

China's official stance is that virus was developed by CIA and brought to Wuhan by US military [1]. So they'll have to reopen wet markets or else be seen as admitting that the virus actually originated in one of them in China rather than in a CIA lab. [1] https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823 https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823

btilly 7y ago
Please don't spread conspiracy theories without linking to a reliable source.
- MikeHolman 7y ago
  Defnitely not the official stance, but Lijian Zhao (China Spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department, Foreign Ministry) tweeted "It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan." https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823 https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823
  - btilly 7y ago
    Yes. Highly placed individuals promote conspiracy theories. Given our President's past behavior on Twitter, we are in no position to criticize. However the official conclusion of China that I have seen matches the international community - this started in a wet market in China.
  - knzhou 7y ago
    Just as Tom Cotton (Senator from Arkansas) declared on Fox news that it was a Chinese bioweapon. All governments have wingnuts.
    - Natsu 7y ago
      I think it's clearly not a bioweapon, and there would be no benefit to China for releasing it, but it's exactly the sort of thing that lab was investigating, so part of me wonders if there wasn't a leak of a research sample. Even if it were so, I would never blame all Chinese people for it.
      - btilly 7y ago
        Occam's razor is for the obvious, it was a cross species jump of a disease from another animal (in this case a bat). Which happens somewhat regularly, and was already known to be a concern.
        Natsu 7y ago
        Maybe, but I somehow don't feel like their government would have fought to hide as much info about it unless they were embarrassed about something, so I feel like the razor cuts the other way. Can we really trust a government that hid things for so long? That said, I doubt we'll have any real proof one way or another.
        btilly 7y ago
        Local officials hid information because nobody wants to be the bearer of bad news. This is an ancient tradition in China. Once the news bubbled up to smart people at the top who understood math, their reaction reversed. There is no way that if people at the top had known what was really going on, they would have let the Moon festival happen.
  - fma 7y ago
    He did it because Mike Pompeo keeps calling it the China or Wuhan virus, instead of Covid-19, and it irritates China. Now Trump calls it "China virus" consistently... There's many ways to debunk Lijian Zhao's conspiracy theory including the fact that the people who participated in the Wuhan military games and admitted to the hospital for an "unknown respiratory illness" was confirmed to be malaria by the hospital itself. He knows it, and anyone who did brief research knows (there are lots of Chinese who believe it, though...they are the Chinese equivalent to MAGA supporters).
- ktln2 7y ago
  In China, you are not allowed to talk about Wuhan as the source of outbreak anymore [1]. A prominent microbiologist is forced to apologize after saying the virus was originated Wuhan seafood market and blaming the culture of eating wild animals[2]. The whole country is trying to shape US as the source of virus, at least on Chinese social media. 1. https://www.ft.com/content/d420ce18-641f-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea68b5 https://www.ft.com/content/d420ce18-641f-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea6... 2. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3076013/coronavirus-leading-hong-kong-microbiologist https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic... 3. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-china-conspiracy-theory.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-ch...
  - knzhou 7y ago
    > A prominent microbiologist is forced to apologize Uh, from the literal headline of the article itself, the apology is probably because he blamed it on, quote, "inferior Chinese culture". And obviously you already knew that. So you're just trying to push a narrative here.
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justicezyx 7y ago
Citation please? If we take a few verbal statements of political figure or government officials as official stance. Then US' official stance must be fascism xenophobic totalitarian antiintellectal ... Let not fall with the questionable thinking cultivated by propaganda and fear mongering
- izend 7y ago
  He is referring to this one Chinese diplomat's statement, I don't believe it is the official stance but it could be the CCP attempt to blame an external entity: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lijian-zhao-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lij...
  - fma 7y ago
    He did it because Mike Pompeo keeps calling it the China or Wuhan virus, instead of Covid-19, and it irritates China. Now Trump calls it "China virus" consistently... There's many ways to debunk Lijian Zhao's conspiracy theory including the fact that the people who participated in the Wuhan military games and admitted to the hospital for an "unknown respiratory illness" was confirmed to be malaria by the hospital itself. He knows it, and anyone who did brief research knows (there are lots of Chinese who believe it, though...they are the Chinese equivalent to MAGA supporters).
node-bayarea 7y ago
It's not an official stance. It's just yet another fake news from China.
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btilly 7y ago

Please don't spread conspiracy theories without linking to a reliable source.

MikeHolman 7y ago
Defnitely not the official stance, but Lijian Zhao (China Spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department, Foreign Ministry) tweeted "It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan." https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823 https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1238111898828066823
- btilly 7y ago
  Yes. Highly placed individuals promote conspiracy theories. Given our President's past behavior on Twitter, we are in no position to criticize. However the official conclusion of China that I have seen matches the international community - this started in a wet market in China.
- knzhou 7y ago
  Just as Tom Cotton (Senator from Arkansas) declared on Fox news that it was a Chinese bioweapon. All governments have wingnuts.
  - Natsu 7y ago
    I think it's clearly not a bioweapon, and there would be no benefit to China for releasing it, but it's exactly the sort of thing that lab was investigating, so part of me wonders if there wasn't a leak of a research sample. Even if it were so, I would never blame all Chinese people for it.
    - btilly 7y ago
      Occam's razor is for the obvious, it was a cross species jump of a disease from another animal (in this case a bat). Which happens somewhat regularly, and was already known to be a concern.
      - Natsu 7y ago
        Maybe, but I somehow don't feel like their government would have fought to hide as much info about it unless they were embarrassed about something, so I feel like the razor cuts the other way. Can we really trust a government that hid things for so long? That said, I doubt we'll have any real proof one way or another.
        btilly 7y ago
        Local officials hid information because nobody wants to be the bearer of bad news. This is an ancient tradition in China. Once the news bubbled up to smart people at the top who understood math, their reaction reversed. There is no way that if people at the top had known what was really going on, they would have let the Moon festival happen.
- fma 7y ago
  He did it because Mike Pompeo keeps calling it the China or Wuhan virus, instead of Covid-19, and it irritates China. Now Trump calls it "China virus" consistently... There's many ways to debunk Lijian Zhao's conspiracy theory including the fact that the people who participated in the Wuhan military games and admitted to the hospital for an "unknown respiratory illness" was confirmed to be malaria by the hospital itself. He knows it, and anyone who did brief research knows (there are lots of Chinese who believe it, though...they are the Chinese equivalent to MAGA supporters).
ktln2 7y ago
In China, you are not allowed to talk about Wuhan as the source of outbreak anymore [1]. A prominent microbiologist is forced to apologize after saying the virus was originated Wuhan seafood market and blaming the culture of eating wild animals[2]. The whole country is trying to shape US as the source of virus, at least on Chinese social media. 1. https://www.ft.com/content/d420ce18-641f-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea68b5 https://www.ft.com/content/d420ce18-641f-11ea-b3f3-fe4680ea6... 2. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3076013/coronavirus-leading-hong-kong-microbiologist https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic... 3. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-china-conspiracy-theory.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-ch...
- knzhou 7y ago
  > A prominent microbiologist is forced to apologize Uh, from the literal headline of the article itself, the apology is probably because he blamed it on, quote, "inferior Chinese culture". And obviously you already knew that. So you're just trying to push a narrative here.

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justicezyx 7y ago

Citation please? If we take a few verbal statements of political figure or government officials as official stance. Then US' official stance must be fascism xenophobic totalitarian antiintellectal ... Let not fall with the questionable thinking cultivated by propaganda and fear mongering

izend 7y ago
He is referring to this one Chinese diplomat's statement, I don't believe it is the official stance but it could be the CCP attempt to blame an external entity: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lijian-zhao-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lij...
- fma 7y ago
  He did it because Mike Pompeo keeps calling it the China or Wuhan virus, instead of Covid-19, and it irritates China. Now Trump calls it "China virus" consistently... There's many ways to debunk Lijian Zhao's conspiracy theory including the fact that the people who participated in the Wuhan military games and admitted to the hospital for an "unknown respiratory illness" was confirmed to be malaria by the hospital itself. He knows it, and anyone who did brief research knows (there are lots of Chinese who believe it, though...they are the Chinese equivalent to MAGA supporters).

node-bayarea 7y ago

It's not an official stance. It's just yet another fake news from China.

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