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Says "Note that I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories so I will focus only on non-political information." Spreads youtube Video of a guy who didn't even re

Says "Note that I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories so I will focus only on non-political information." Spreads youtube Video of a guy who didn't even realize that he made an impostor his second in command leading a public health office in Germany. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gert_Postel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gert_Postel Article: Why Wolfgang Wodarg's Statements have little to do with science. By a well respected fact checking and investigative journalism group. https://correctiv.org/faktencheck/hintergrund/2020/03/18/coronavirus-warum-die-aussagen-von-wolfgang-wodarg-wenig-mit-wissenschaft-zu-tun-haben https://correctiv.org/faktencheck/hintergrund/2020/03/18/cor... ( Translate with Google Translate ) OP is a great example of how a disinformation campaign by conspiracy theorists works. They make you believe they have credible sources you can rely on they base their arguments on until you start digging and find out the stuff above and that this is the same guy who voted against a Child Predator law in Germany and is heavily politically and financially involved in spreading the bullshit he does.

tarruda 7y ago
> OP is a great example of how a disinformation campaign by conspiracy theorists works. They make you believe they have credible sources you can rely on they base their arguments Here's what I did before submitting this: - Saw this video on youtube, found the non-political arguments to be convincing. - Since I've never heard about Wolfgang Wodarg before, I googled and found his wikipedia page [1], which suggested he was an expert in the field. I also considered the possibility that he had very strong political views and it may influence his judgement. For example, I never considered (or mentioned here) the parts where he talks about Chinese government. - Googled for more articles about this guy, most of the results were in German which I didn't try to translate. The only few english results were talking about this video. - Also looked on reddit, found many people dismissing the video without presenting any counter-arguments (which I'm still looking for). I'm currently locked in my home with my wife and two kids, respecting the consensus that staying at home is the best way to contribute positively to this pandemic. When I saw this video, I can't deny that it brought a bit of hope. I know that we are biased and tend to believe in things we'd like very much to be true: Emotions can cloud our judgement (something you should consider in the future when calling someone you've never met a "conspiracy theorist") . But I left my emotions aside when I stepped through the video making notes of the relevant points and creating a summary to for Ask HN. The only reason I brought this here was to find convincing counter-arguments. I didn't read through the whole thread, but still haven't found anything. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Wodarg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Wodarg
- Jamesbeam 7y ago
  How are his arguments non-political if he follows the agenda as a politician and doctor to prove over eleven years unsuccessfully that pandemics are fake? He was an expert in what field? He's not a virologist or epidemiologist and preferably spreads his "theories" through right wing propaganda. And if that weren't enough red flags he also had someone working as his second in command that wasn't even a doctor. He made a mailman a public health official. Please read this out loud to understand how incompetent of a doctor you have to be to make the mailman the second highest health inspection officer in the city. What of those things qualified him the most to you as an expert to talk about pandemics, virology and epidemiology? I am interested. With all due respect, I am not the one with the clouded judgement sir. This seems to be a common thing to pretend other people don't see the "truth" in the circles you seem to be active in. All the relevant points of this video are bullshit. And do not benefit anyone in this crisis, but they spread dangerous misconceptions and want to portrait the gov/system as a bad actor. And by posting them so do you. Also you got a few great answers to your questions in other comments, go read them , look them up, verify them and then make your opinion around those facts. This is all the attention you'll get from me. Have a nice day and best of health to the wife and kids and that you stay safe in this crisis.
thu2111 7y ago
this is the same guy who voted against a Child Predator law in Germany What does that have to do with anything? It's really better to leave stuff like that out if you're attacking someone's credibility. Bringing in unrelated political points phrased on obviously inflammatory ways just makes it sound like you're got a partisan axe to grind and would criticise the guy no matter what he did.
- Jamesbeam 7y ago
  The OP was talking about non-political opinion of said "Expert". But everything said "Expert" did in the past was politically motivated, including voting against a Child Predator law to generate attention for himself and to promote his other weird thesis, like the "Fake pandemic" stuff. In no way, form or shape did I say he voted against it because he's a child predator. It was to show that he is a politician that is frequently trying to generate controversy to push his personal "Fake Pandemic" agenda. So of course it has to do something with the topic.

tarruda 7y ago

> OP is a great example of how a disinformation campaign by conspiracy theorists works. They make you believe they have credible sources you can rely on they base their arguments Here's what I did before submitting this: - Saw this video on youtube, found the non-political arguments to be convincing. - Since I've never heard about Wolfgang Wodarg before, I googled and found his wikipedia page [1], which suggested he was an expert in the field. I also considered the possibility that he had very strong political views and it may influence his judgement. For example, I never considered (or mentioned here) the parts where he talks about Chinese government. - Googled for more articles about this guy, most of the results were in German which I didn't try to translate. The only few english results were talking about this video. - Also looked on reddit, found many people dismissing the video without presenting any counter-arguments (which I'm still looking for). I'm currently locked in my home with my wife and two kids, respecting the consensus that staying at home is the best way to contribute positively to this pandemic. When I saw this video, I can't deny that it brought a bit of hope. I know that we are biased and tend to believe in things we'd like very much to be true: Emotions can cloud our judgement (something you should consider in the future when calling someone you've never met a "conspiracy theorist") . But I left my emotions aside when I stepped through the video making notes of the relevant points and creating a summary to for Ask HN. The only reason I brought this here was to find convincing counter-arguments. I didn't read through the whole thread, but still haven't found anything. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Wodarg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Wodarg

Jamesbeam 7y ago
How are his arguments non-political if he follows the agenda as a politician and doctor to prove over eleven years unsuccessfully that pandemics are fake? He was an expert in what field? He's not a virologist or epidemiologist and preferably spreads his "theories" through right wing propaganda. And if that weren't enough red flags he also had someone working as his second in command that wasn't even a doctor. He made a mailman a public health official. Please read this out loud to understand how incompetent of a doctor you have to be to make the mailman the second highest health inspection officer in the city. What of those things qualified him the most to you as an expert to talk about pandemics, virology and epidemiology? I am interested. With all due respect, I am not the one with the clouded judgement sir. This seems to be a common thing to pretend other people don't see the "truth" in the circles you seem to be active in. All the relevant points of this video are bullshit. And do not benefit anyone in this crisis, but they spread dangerous misconceptions and want to portrait the gov/system as a bad actor. And by posting them so do you. Also you got a few great answers to your questions in other comments, go read them , look them up, verify them and then make your opinion around those facts. This is all the attention you'll get from me. Have a nice day and best of health to the wife and kids and that you stay safe in this crisis.

thu2111 7y ago

this is the same guy who voted against a Child Predator law in Germany What does that have to do with anything? It's really better to leave stuff like that out if you're attacking someone's credibility. Bringing in unrelated political points phrased on obviously inflammatory ways just makes it sound like you're got a partisan axe to grind and would criticise the guy no matter what he did.

Jamesbeam 7y ago
The OP was talking about non-political opinion of said "Expert". But everything said "Expert" did in the past was politically motivated, including voting against a Child Predator law to generate attention for himself and to promote his other weird thesis, like the "Fake pandemic" stuff. In no way, form or shape did I say he voted against it because he's a child predator. It was to show that he is a politician that is frequently trying to generate controversy to push his personal "Fake Pandemic" agenda. So of course it has to do something with the topic.