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In the NYT article it sounds like he intentionally collapsed and then they took him to the hospital. From the above link it sounds like the police just took him

In the NYT article it sounds like he intentionally collapsed and then they took him to the hospital. From the above link it sounds like the police just took him to the hospital because they wanted to. "I have been arrested 9 times. The proper procedure for police is to take the arrestee to a magistrate. This happened twice. On 7 occasions, I was taken to hospitals (3 times to NY Downtown Hospital, 3 times to Bellevue Medical Center, and once to Saint Vincent Catholic Hospital)." I can't help but think of the recent case of the NYPD who was forcefully admitted to a psych ward because he was a whistleblower.

CWuestefeld 16y ago
In this most recent incident, at least, he was cooperating with police (who entered his home with an arrest warrant) until they refused to provide their names and badge numbers. At that time he dropped to the floor and refused to speak. He didn't actively resist their arrest, but did refuse to cooperate in any way. I believe that taking the "suspect" to the hospital in this case is putatively for his own safety, just in case the reason he's unresponsive is that he's having a seizure or some other medical issue. But from Julian case, it appears that sometimes this is treated as an invitation to "soften him up". (fwiw, I've never met Julian, but I've communicated with him by email and get regular updates on his work)
thailandstartup 16y ago
You can see his technique here - http://tyrannyfighters.com/category/announcement/page/3/ http://tyrannyfighters.com/category/announcement/page/3/ Whatever about the law on what he was doing, they was clearly wrong to be harassing the videographer, and DHS appear to have paid out $5000 in settlement. http://blogofbile.com/2010/10/18/settlement-with-department-of-homeland-security-reached/ http://blogofbile.com/2010/10/18/settlement-with-department-... I'm not sure its a good idea that they can hand out tax-payer money to avoid judgement against them for their illegal acts.

CWuestefeld 16y ago

In this most recent incident, at least, he was cooperating with police (who entered his home with an arrest warrant) until they refused to provide their names and badge numbers. At that time he dropped to the floor and refused to speak. He didn't actively resist their arrest, but did refuse to cooperate in any way. I believe that taking the "suspect" to the hospital in this case is putatively for his own safety, just in case the reason he's unresponsive is that he's having a seizure or some other medical issue. But from Julian case, it appears that sometimes this is treated as an invitation to "soften him up". (fwiw, I've never met Julian, but I've communicated with him by email and get regular updates on his work)

thailandstartup 16y ago

You can see his technique here - http://tyrannyfighters.com/category/announcement/page/3/ http://tyrannyfighters.com/category/announcement/page/3/ Whatever about the law on what he was doing, they was clearly wrong to be harassing the videographer, and DHS appear to have paid out $5000 in settlement. http://blogofbile.com/2010/10/18/settlement-with-department-of-homeland-security-reached/ http://blogofbile.com/2010/10/18/settlement-with-department-... I'm not sure its a good idea that they can hand out tax-payer money to avoid judgement against them for their illegal acts.